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BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 / Re: Lacking spark on R45
« Last post by Bob_Roller on May 12, 2026, 07:15:18 PM »
Hi !! Welcome to the site .
Sounds like you have an electronic ignition from your description .
Check to see if your ignition coil is a dual output black and gray coil .
Notorious for issues case cracking being the most common issue .
Do a check of the primary and secondary circuits of the coil .
Primary resistance 1.5 ohms, secondary resistance  11-13 k ohms .
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BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 / Lacking spark on R45
« Last post by pawepan2 on May 12, 2026, 03:31:23 PM »
Hello everyone and thank admin for adding me to the community!
I've been on the forum for a while, but now i have a problem i can't solve myself.
Recently i bought used BMW R45 from 1981yr. - the engine worked pretty fine; motor would start quite easily, i bought it with the new 12V battery.
However i wanted to maintenance it a bit: i serviced carburators (changed orings and gaskets; new gas, clutch and choke pulling lines; i refreshed wheels and put new tyres. I did not service electrical system. Now when I assembled everything all together - motor started nicely, but after a while it died. And i cannot start it with a electric starter or kickstarter.
Now after a little investigation i see that the problem is missing spark at the ignition. When i'm switching killswitch - there is a spark. I made a test with grounding middle connector on the wire leading to ICU - there was a spark at the grounded spark plug.  I checked eletrical connections - it all seems fine. I even replaced ICU module. The coil seems to be fine, as the sparks show up when moving killswitch. The only time i could start the motor was when i launched it on impulse while pushing whole motor - then values shown on the tachometer were irrational. Even when i turn the bike with the key - tachometer shows about 1K for 1 sec without the motor running. The only thing i'm not certain about is the hall sensor - but it worked properly in the past. Can anyone help me solve my problem with the missing spark / lack of proper ignition? Thanks. Now I'm considering installing enduralast digital ignition system.  :bmw_smiley:
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BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 / Re: Siebenrock 860
« Last post by Tiedie on May 10, 2026, 07:22:05 AM »
Apparently my photos are too big to attach. :nopity:

NO! No. no , no no , no no! Not accepting that  ;D

Shrink your photos please. MS Paint wil do it, or almost any other photo application.

ADMIN. Eject this member immediatately unless there are pics!!!!    :steinigung: :drowning: :flamethrowingsmiley:  :dankk2: :furious3: :furious3: :furious3: :beehive: :nopity: :deal2: :thud: :vrolijk_1: :clap: :Kick:

I'm having no success with shrinking my photos.
It's crazy I can post some pictures and others are too big. 1024kb is what it tells me is maximum. :thud:
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BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 / Re: Siebenrock 860
« Last post by dogshome on May 09, 2026, 02:39:08 PM »
Apparently my photos are too big to attach. :nopity:

NO! No. no , no no , no no! Not accepting that  ;D

Shrink your photos please. MS Paint wil do it, or almost any other photo application.

ADMIN. Eject this member immediatately unless there are pics!!!!    :steinigung: :drowning: :flamethrowingsmiley:  :dankk2: :furious3: :furious3: :furious3: :beehive: :nopity: :deal2: :thud: :vrolijk_1: :clap: :Kick:
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BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 / Re: Electronic ignition and total advance
« Last post by IanMc on May 09, 2026, 05:44:54 AM »
Thanks for your advice.  You've answered a side question about measuring distance between timing marks - hadn't thought of counting the teeth!  I think this is now resolved.  There is the 'main' universal curve then one for dual plugs and a hybrid one.  The hybrid one is 32 degrees with a slightly smoothed out advance curve.  On this setting With Z lined up at full advance, the S is at the top of the aperture, so a little bit advanced but pretty good.  The bike certainly starts and idles fine now so I'm leaving it at that!
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BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 / Re: Electronic ignition and total advance
« Last post by Barry on May 08, 2026, 04:37:47 PM »
My understanding is that 34 deg is the maximum advance which makes it 2 deg more than stock. I don't think that's worth worrying about especially if it reaches maximum advance at higher revs than stock. So I would set it at an estimated 34 deg which would be a little over half a tooth past the stock timing mark.  If you still can't see the S mark at idle then something is wrong with the amount of advance that the unit is providing.  The amount of advance is switchable isn't it ?

As far as I know stock advance is 32 deg for your model but you could check by counting the number of teeth between the OT mark and the Z mark. I make it 3.24 deg per tooth.
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BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 / Electronic ignition and total advance
« Last post by IanMc on May 08, 2026, 06:09:00 AM »
Hello - I treated myself to a Enduralast electronic ignition recently.  I have a straightforward question on what is the standard maximum advance on a 1988 mono, ie. with the BMW electronic system/Hall sensor set up.  From my experience with this new system, it seems it is not 32 degrees as set out in the Haynes manual.  Can anyone confirm what it actually is?

Here's the back story. The Enduralast instructions are aimed at all airheads with a couple of exceptions.   The key point is the system maximum advance is set at 34 degrees which they reckon is the best for all models regardless of original set up, except for, of course, R65s and later Hall sensor models like mine!   In this case, they say go with/stick with the standard 32 degrees, but a whole side story on diameter of flywheels and distance between the timing marks.  I initially set it up as standard at full advance (Z), but I could not see the idle mark (S).  I expected this to be visible, but 2 degrees out, ie. about 3mm.  Start up from cold was definitely worse and lumpy, but rides fine once warmed up albeit the tickover is higher.  So, I am thinking it is too far advanced at tickover.  I then thought I'd try it the other way around by advancing the timing at full advance to 34 degrees and therefore reduce the advance at idle (3mm above the standard crankcase mark).  Definitely ran better at low speeds but I still could not see the S mark at tickover.  So, assuming the Enduralast system is definitely 34 degrees, then it follows that the standard maximum advance must be less than 32 degrees on my specific model.  See question above!   If it is, I think the Enduralast system must be faulty.

Thanks for any advice!
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BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 / Re: Rubber bushing
« Last post by Tiedie on May 07, 2026, 07:33:09 PM »
I've always just put up with the vibration, so if it was me I'd replace the non-standard rubber washer with a standard metal washer.

From back in the day one of the vibration solutions was to use shoe rubber or polyurethane. 

The vibration disappeared from my 83 R65LS when I installed the Siebenrock 860 kit. In a FB thread (mainly Tony Smith's input) we came to the hypothesis that BMW were using matching pistons for the short stroke R65 engines with the same tolerances they used for the long stroke 247 engines. This gave the vibration. So, you might fix the vibration by installing an 860 kit or by balancing the pistons you have.

That's nice to know since I've just installed the Siebenrock 860 kit in my  84' R65LS. And the guy that installed it noticed the rubber bushings were deteriorated.
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BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 / Re: Rubber bushing
« Last post by Kelvin on May 07, 2026, 06:33:09 PM »
I've always just put up with the vibration, so if it was me I'd replace the non-standard rubber washer with a standard metal washer.

From back in the day one of the vibration solutions was to use shoe rubber or polyurethane. 

The vibration disappeared from my 83 R65LS when I installed the Siebenrock 860 kit. In a FB thread (mainly Tony Smith's input) we came to the hypothesis that BMW were using matching pistons for the short stroke R65 engines with the same tolerances they used for the long stroke 247 engines. This gave the vibration. So, you might fix the vibration by installing an 860 kit or by balancing the pistons you have.
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BMW Technical Q&A, Primarily R65 / Re: Rubber bushing
« Last post by Tiedie on May 07, 2026, 11:57:44 AM »
Way cool, I have a 79' Kubota B7100D 4wd tractor. So I might be able to get the right washer. If you don't mind keep me posted.
Thank you for your help and time.
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