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Author Topic: making the sidestand stay down  (Read 953 times)

samc

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making the sidestand stay down
« on: June 08, 2008, 09:32:54 PM »
besides saying "down, boy!", which isn't working. Hate that thing. It appears that the stand on my 84 R65 LS relies on the pin on the back side of the pivot bolt for the self-retracting action; there's a sheet metal plate with a notch that hits the pin and sort of forces the non-over-center spring action, if that makes sense. It therefore appears that if the pin weren't there, the stand would go over-center, and the springs would keep it down; so a normal bolt in place of the special pivot bolt would be an easy swap. Has anyone tried this, am I barking up the wrong tree, etc.  

nothing

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Re: making the sidestand stay down
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2008, 04:26:14 PM »
This was recently discussed here: http://suraklyn.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1207593095/9#9 which will, if you read it all, lead you to: http://w6rec.com/duane/bmw/sidestand.htm

samc

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Re: making the sidestand stay down
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2008, 05:12:59 PM »
Duane's instructions only work on earlier bikes; on mine, the spring anchor is not attached to the engine mount in that way; nothing to pivot. Looking at the exploded diagrams on Realoem, it appears that there is an alternate side stand that doesn't use the notched spring plate or the pin on the pivot bolt, so I'm guessing that a simple bolt replacement might well work, and it's an easy experiment to try once the exhaust is out of the way, but I'm looking to see if anyone has gone before. While I like the Brown, I'd like to make the OEM stand work for me. I wonder; does anybody have that other sidestand, which appears to be non-self-retracting? What, besides the pivot pin and notch in the spring plate, is different?

samc

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Re: making the sidestand stay down
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2008, 10:02:39 AM »
Update. I replaced the screw that the sidestand pivots on, that has an extension thingie on the back side, with a normal, shorter screw so the notched spring plate is free to move forward. The sidestand stays down and is useable now (although still flimsy). The only hard part is getting the exhaust off to get at the screw, but since that was off for jet-hot coating, no big deal.

mikethebike

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Re: making the sidestand stay down
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2008, 12:50:50 PM »
I also have a "flipping" nuisance sidestand. The slightest forward movement and off it goes!  A pic of your mod would be well appreciated.
Mike

samc

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Re: making the sidestand stay down
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2008, 01:29:41 PM »
A pic isn't going to help much; the mod was a shorter screw. I suppose I could give it a try, later (at work now). Here's the deal; the sidestand (on mine) pivots on a 8 mm, I think, flathead screw that has an extension out the back side, about 1/2 inch, that catches the notched spring plate where the three springs join (see drawing on realoem). If yours is like mine, the notch in the spring plate keeps the plate from going forward enough that the springs are over-center. removing the extension, as by using a shorter screw, lets the springs go over center and hold the stand forward and down. Take a peak under there with it up on the center stand, work the side stand and see how the screw stops the spring plate and springs. Cost was about half a buck for the screw; I suppose I could have just clipped off the extension on the OEM screw with bolt cutters or a hacksaw and had the same effect, but there's something satisfying about new hardware.

mikethebike

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Re: making the sidestand stay down
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2008, 03:44:31 PM »
Thanks for the info.  I've just done as you said but ground the end off  (It was hardened and my junior hacksaw wouldn't touch it) the original bolt to just below the pin hole (Mine has a split pin through the bolt).  I rounded the end and "Hey Presto" , my sidestand stays down until I kick it back. Excellent!  Thank you so much! (And you were right! The exhaust is in the way.  It gave me an excuse to clean the threads on the headers, whilst I was at it!)  Mike
« Last Edit: July 18, 2008, 03:45:56 PM by mikethebike »

samc

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Re: making the sidestand stay down
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2008, 04:11:29 PM »
hey, maybe there's a fortune to be made selling kits.  :D

Nah.... Even if we tripled the price it wouldn't cover postage.