epa system

[georgesgiralt]

Hello Montmil,
I think you're a bit biased, as I am....
A lot of little drops make the Mississippi ... So every drop saved is a blessing.
But I'm not sure we have to gain a lot trying to make green friendly engines devised very long ago and a minority in the crowd...
I can't tell for USA, but in Europe we have a very large  crowd of Diesel engines and this is a huge pollution for the air as they release micro particles of soot in the air. Guess what ? Lobbyist prevent them to be reformed... and forced to use cleaner engines... "will kill the economy"...
The wood stove had had their emission monitored and some makers had to review their entire line in order not to release micro particles in the air.. What is good for stoves (not every house has one... ) is not good for Diesel engines... Go figure  :-?
We are too few and too disorganized.

[Air4Life]

I believe motorcycles should also be exempted.

Share with me your thoughts.  

Small recommendation, anything 1983 and older should be exempt.

[montmil]

In Texas, motorcycles do not have to take a sniffer test. Cars and Pickumups 25+ years and older are also exempt.

The development and growth of fuel-injected motorcycles has done much to produce a "cleaner" exhaust from these New Age motorcycles. We Luddites continue to tweak the mixture screws.

[Matt Chapter]

In Texas, motorcycles do not have to take a sniffer test. Cars and Pickumups 25+ years and older are also exempt.

I think it's even "better" than that Monte.. my '95 4Runner goes through a different emissions test than the '96 and newer vehicles.. my check engine light can be (is) on and still pass.  Even inside city limits!

The smart thing to do is basically what Texas does though.. "new" vehicles should be maintained at the state of the art, with a sunset provision for older vehicles.  By their nature there are few enough of them doing few enough miles to not be worth the trouble of testing.

Of course, this is coming from a guy that uses a beer fueled lawnmower instead of gas powered...

[Bob_Roller]

In the Phoenix and Tucson metro areas, motorcycles are required to pass an emissions test as part of the registration process .

Only way to get around this requirement, is to have collector insurance and historic vehicle license plate, vehicle must be at least 25 model years old to qualify for the plate .

The Arizona Department of Environmental Quality, (ADEQ), petitioned the Federal Environmental Protection Agency, (EPA), to waive the requirement for motorcycles to undergo the emissions test in the two largest metro areas of Arizona, as they found out that motorcycles contributed about .007 % of  vehicle emissions, the EPA granted the waiver, but it's still lost somewhere in the state governmental 'red tape' .

[montmil]

... Of course, this is coming from a guy that uses a beer fueled lawnmower instead of gas powered...

That's sort of a two-fer love v hate for me, Matt. I hate mowing but love beer.

Wait a minute... Does the beer fuel YOU while you mow? That's definitely my way. [smiley=beerchug.gif]

[tvrla]

The Arizona Department of Environmental Quality, (ADEQ), petitioned the Federal Environmental Protection Agency, (EPA), to waive the requirement for motorcycles to undergo the emissions test....

Funny the EPA requires DEQ for bikes in Arizona but not here. Frankly, I think it's rediculous making bikes get tested - but maybe that would be the time to ensure they've got mufflers that actually muffle.

Another odd one is there's DEQ testing here in Portland, but not 50 miles south in the state capitol, Salem.

[Matt Chapter]

That's sort of a two-fer love v hate for me, Matt. I hate mowing but love beer.

Wait a minute... Does the beer fuel YOU while you mow? That's definitely my way.  

Depends on how early in the day I'm mowing.  Ah.. who am I kidding!?

I'm just anal retentive enough to not want anyone else to cut my grass, they wouldn't do it right.  And I use a reel mower, so the only motive force is me. Powered by beer.

[montmil]

Depends on how early in the day I'm mowing.  Ah.. who am I kidding!?

We've all seen the T-shirt... "BEER! It's not just for breakfast anymore."

Really? A real reel mower. Tiff Green, you got?

[Ed Miller]

Another odd one is there's DEQ testing here in Portland, but not 50 miles south in the state capitol, Salem.

Not that odd.  Portland has way more people and traffic than Salem.  As population goes up, individual freedom goes down.  In general -- I can think of primitive nomad societies where you couldn't get away with very much.

[Dizerens5]

In this country (UK) cars and motorcycles have to pass a roadworthiness test first after three years, then every year, for ever. Motorcycles don't do the emissions test. In principle, the vehicle must meet the standards in force when it was new. In practice there doesn't seem to be a detailed list of standards and it's mostly up to the tester. Some are easier than others. It's worked ok so far. But I suspect it may get toughened up in the future. Fingers crossed!

[Barry]

There has been a recent change in the UK requirements for an MOT inspection. Vehicles built before 1st Jan 1960 are now exempt.

Only another 19 years to go before my 79 qualifies and that's only if it becomes a rolling date.

[Air4Life]

The nature of Man, Woman, and their politics -- I just don't want to see my valves get cooked.  

About a year before I turned 50 I started receiving AARP in the mail.  I thought to myself, great, lodging discounts and more.  Yippee!  Then while reading the now capsized Wall Street Journal and its comments section, it turns out that AARP is a Democrat favoring organisation.  I had no idea.  The comment contributor went on to suggest some other organisation that is Republican focused.  I thought to myself, isn't there a organisation that is looking out for me?

[Matt Chapter]

I thought to myself, isn't there a organisation that is looking out for me?

Yea.. you.  Maybe close family?

Yes Monte, a real reel mower.. I love it.  No engine to maintain, quiet, and my lot is only a fifth of an acre.  My mix... eh, it's mostly weeds.  But I've put down some buffalo seed and some zoysia seed.  I don't water most of it.  Why pay for water that makes the grass grow so you have to cut it more?!?  The reel mower doesn't handle tall stuff very well, so you have to be very consistent, especially during the growing season.

[montmil]

Why pay for water that makes the grass grow so you have to cut it more?

Exactly! Hey, Sweetheart... Come read Matt's post.