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Author Topic: timing chain  (Read 2557 times)

Darwin_R65

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Re: timing chain
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2010, 06:18:21 AM »
Well I finally got around to pulling my sump off last night, found the fish clip (also known as the JC clip.... Jesus Christ, where did that go.) AND a washer.  hmmm I didn't lose a washer.  where has that come from, and how long has it been in there.

As for the theory of the clip being to the rear to avoid knocking the clip against anything. There is no marks on the cover I removed, however there are chafe marks on the front main bearing housing, as described on snowbums page. Hence I will NOT be putting it back contrary to what so called experts advise.

I will follow snowbums advice
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Installing the link on the rear side. This is done on SIMPLEX (1979+) chains.

I think some people have simply confused the different methods for single and twin row chains.

John

Darwin_R65

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Re: timing chain
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2010, 08:45:49 AM »
Well I went to the car club yesterday and asked about heating sprockets to fit them, and they gave me an old deep fryer that was at the car club full of engine oil.

Heated the oil to 250'F and then in went the sprocket. After a few minutes I lined it up, used the old sprocket as a drift and realised I'd misaligned the keyway. Out with the puller to get it off again, I repulled it two more times, before SUCCESS. Then the bearing. Now clean up and go to bed. Chain is on as well.

Hopefully all will go smoothly tomorrow night.

I need to get me a shed though, I am sick of working in a carport, avoiding nature.

John.

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Re: timing chain
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2010, 08:56:04 AM »
I replaced my master link from the back.  I took a long set of needle nose plyers (2" tynes) and bent the last 1/4" inward to give them some grip.  This allowed me to to grip around the two end rollers and hold the chain close enough together with one hamd where I could get the master link in from the back with the other hand.

All the holes were blocked up with clean shop rags.  

If I'm remembering right -- the fixed slid on the left should be against the chain so that is displaces the chain no more than 1mm.  I think that info came from Nathan at Boxerworks-Service.  It was a while ago...
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Re: timing chain
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2010, 08:57:56 AM »
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...Chain is on as well... John

John, please don't keep us all on tender hooks. Which side of the timing chain did you install the "fish"?

Monte
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Darwin_R65

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Re: timing chain
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2010, 09:49:42 AM »
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...Chain is on as well... John

John, please don't keep us all on tender hooks. Which side of the timing chain did you install the "fish"?

Monte
JC clip can be seen from the front.
I use a pair of bent circlip pliers to hold the master link and inserted from the rear.
I had the sump off so I didn't bother to plug any holes.




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Re: timing chain
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2010, 11:13:44 PM »
Take care not to over-torque the oil pan bolts when you put it back on.

Use a screwdriver-type handle for your socket.  Check them for tightness every other tank of gas, for 3 times, or so.

Darwin_R65

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Re: timing chain
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2010, 09:16:24 AM »
Well I just gave a the bike a start in anticipation of tomorrows ride to work.

Still a clanker clunk in the bike, then I pulled the clutch in.   WOW this bike is quiet.

It still has a distinct BMW sound, but it sounds quiet and smooth.

BUT if I release the clutch in neutral ithas quite a rattling clankering sound. Should I be concerned ?  Is a clutch or gearbox my next problem in waiting ??
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Re: timing chain
« Reply #22 on: March 31, 2010, 10:49:00 AM »
Not uncommon for the transmission to make unusual noise while in neutral with the engine running .
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