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Offline montmil

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Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« on: March 24, 2009, 09:01:44 AM »
Just received an email response from the Kansas-based Bing Agency Internat'l requesting prices on some service bits. Jumping Jesus!

http://www.bingcarburetor.com/bmw/bmwcvkits.html

The following are for 32mm Cv carbs as on most of the R65:

Kit#2    $78.19
Kit#4    $129.72 for carbs 64/32/201 and up
Kit#6    $176.90 ditto above

Add alky resistant float and bowl kit to #6 for  $122.79
Float and bowl kit alone    $186.59

No prices provided for individual jets.

QUESTION?  Any other sources out there for Bing bits at "real world" prices? Motobins?

I have rebuild kits for the carbs with new diaphragms and gaskets. $25.00 fixes two carbs. I am shocked, Shocked, I say, with a capital F. [smiley=furious3.gif]

Monte

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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2009, 09:06:49 AM »
Motobins might well be your next port of call.

I cannot remember my rebuild kits being anything like as expensive.

And you can get jets on thier own...ifI recall
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2009, 09:59:23 AM »
I just priced the parts that I got from Bing about 2 years ago, that includes kit #6, plus all of the jets, atomizers, etc.

Came up with a 'list' price at Chicago BMW of $203.3, factor in their usual 20% discount and it comes out to about $163, plus shipping and handling.

So maybe ordering it 'piecemeal' may be a better value, as long as you can get all of the parts in a reasonable time-frame.

I was just looking at the manual I received from Bing, and on the front, it states : Sole Agent For: United States  Canada  South America  Australia  .

Guess they have a strangle hold on the market.

The parts that I ordered about 2 years ago, was only $125US, so their prices have indeed gone up !!!

I installed the alcohol resistant float kit , back in 1997, I think I paid $65US for it at the time, and I didn't think I got my moneys worth at that price.

Right now the floats are a little under $16US each, I think I would replace the stock foam floats every 5-6 years, instead of purchasing the alcohol resistant kit  for the price they want for it.
« Last Edit: March 24, 2009, 10:28:45 AM by Bob_Roller »
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 10:58:21 AM »
Now that the £ is not worth as much, you might find Motobins prices more reasonable:

http://www.motobins.co.uk/displayprod.php?function=subs&subs=083&title=CARBURETTORS
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 11:00:55 AM »
flugelnus.com has your basic "gasket and o-ring assortment" kit for $12.50.  I believe they took over Eurotech's Airhead business and I used to buy the full kits (with diaphragms) from them for under $40.  Maybe an e-mail to flugelnus might reveal they still carry the kits.
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2009, 11:29:21 AM »
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flugelnus.com has your basic "gasket and o-ring assortment" kit for $12.50.  I believe they took over Eurotech's Airhead business and I used to buy the full kits (with diaphragms) from them for under $40.  Maybe an e-mail to flugelnus might reveal they still carry the kits.

Flugelnus was my provider for the gasket/diaphragm kits. Nice folks.

Motobins will be my next stop.

Thanks, all. Will let you know what transpires across the pond.

Monte
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 11:47:42 AM »
I always wondered why Bing didn't note any prices on the website.  Now I know.  Wow! :o

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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 11:50:00 AM »
YEA!  [smiley=clap.gif]  Motobins to the rescue. You can pretty much build up your carbs one piece at a time, if you wish, from these folks.

http://www.motobins.co.uk/displayprod.php?function=subs&subs=083&title=CARBURETTORS

Time to start a list.

Monte
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2009, 01:58:39 PM »
Does anybody have any experience with the "Stromberg" diaphragms?  I seem to recall some discussion on boxerworks (years ago) with some claims that the Stromberg parts had stiffer rubber...
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2009, 02:33:27 PM »
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Does anybody have any experience with the "Stromberg" diaphragms?  I seem to recall some discussion on boxerworks (years ago) with some claims that the Stromberg parts had stiffer rubber...
Ive just rebuilt both carbs with parts from motorworks the diaphragms were twice as thick as the ones that came out im sure they are stromberg (My brother rebuilt his as well. Mine is an 80 flat top bing his is a stromberg top with the return spring 81) but they both work ok all the jets are availiable individualy just give them the frame number and they will ensure they are right for that bike they ship to the USA and mighnt be worth a punt with the $ so strong
http://www.motorworks.co.uk/index.php?q=
I live near by so i usualy ring and collect they seem to have good stock levels but marginaly higher prices than motobins that said everything is pukka
Lou
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2009, 03:14:25 PM »
I noticed on the Motobins site, that they have OEM Bing diaphrams, and then another non-OEM diaphrams.

Non-OEM are less costly, anyone know the difference between the two ?
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2009, 09:04:56 PM »
What I recall hearing about the stromberg parts is that the hard plastic disk on the top needs to be boiled in water to 'soften' it so that it will slide down over the top of the needle jet area, I think... and apparently the rubber is supposed to be thicker.  I have no first hand experience with which to ascertain the veracity of these statements.
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2009, 03:07:53 AM »
pre 81 there retained by a plastic ring which is best refitted warm 81 on there retained by 4 screws and a plate both are easy to strip and rebuild
Lou
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2009, 01:24:24 PM »
It's Saturday and I just now hit Submit Order for my Bing 32mm R65 carb parts from Motobins.

I also noticed the lower prices for the "HYDRIN" diaphragms but there was no other info, re: Stromberg or else, about them. No matter, as I already have the diaphragms, gaskets and o-rings from Flugelnus  

At current exchange rates, my parts (24 items) came to $117.00US plus whatever shipping costs turn up. Far lower than having to buy the outrageous "kits" offered out of Bingville, Kansas.

No, Toto, we ain't buying in Kansas anymore!  [smiley=furious3.gif] No one gets in to see the BingWizard. Not no one.

Monte
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Re: Bing parts $...Good Lord!
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2009, 10:15:07 AM »
MotoBins delivers my 32mm Bing bits!  [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Posted to carriage via Royal Air Mail -I love this- from Motobins on 01 April 2009. At my door 09 April 2009. Order 100% complete and at the website catalog prices, no surprise up-charges or increases.

I had almost placed an order for my 81's timing chain and related parts but skipped over to the 'Bins site just to check prices. Glad I did.

MotoBins offers a complete timing chain replacement kit for the R65 priced at $43.95US which includes the oil seal, gaskets needed (3) and all the hard parts. Kit even has a fresh O-ring for the bean can. Factoring in the 20% ChiBMW discount, I'm still looking at $53.00+. Royal Air vs Chicago shipping is a wee bit higher but it's still pretty much a wash.

What sent me back to England was MotoBins stated "95% delivery from stock". The odd Bing order convinced me these folks offer serious parts support for the vintage Airheads.

Right now, the USD is strong against the British Pound.

Look through the MotoBins site. Almost every part has a photograph rather than the sometimes odd artwork in the fiche pages. An educational tour.

Monte

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Monte Miller
Denton, TEXAS
1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet