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Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2008, 07:13:08 PM »
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I recieved a reply from the company, and it states that 'there is a motor in the back of the bulb that moves the bulb up and down to get the high and low beam'.

Sounds like the person that answered your email is not the same one that wrote the copy for the website...


"The H4/9003 Bi-Xenon bulbs in the bi-xenon kit stay fixed and there is a shield that covers and uncovers the capsule of the xenon bulb as you switch from low to high beam, thus changing the beam pattern."

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Offline Justin B.

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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2008, 07:31:54 PM »
Yeah, the web site is correct.  The gizmo moves the shutter/shield and I can feel a bit of a burr somewhere when I manually cycle the shutter with my finger - probably the cause of my intermittent condition...  I can personally vouch for that!  This is a pic from their web site:



Here's some pix of one of my bulbs at various angles and at rest plus me holding shutter open:







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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2008, 11:20:40 PM »
Is there any sign of lube on those rods the shield slides on?  I bet they need it, but anything that gets on the bulb's glass could cause it to break from the heat.  Is the mechanism (motor or solenoid or what ever)
inside the base?  Grr, I want these to work!   >:(

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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2008, 05:51:13 AM »
No lube that I can see.  I swapped in my "spare" so hopefully this failure wasn't the norm...
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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2008, 04:21:24 PM »
They have an on-line RMA process.  I logged in, created account and specified the problem, and was then given RMA number and address to send defective part to.  I e-mailed this info to the guy who had assisted with troubleshooting and he assured me they would send a replacement bulb as soon as the other was received.  So far the customer service has been pretty good.

Through a restructuring (or something) at the college I am attending all of the afternoon classes I am taking are being rolled into the night classes ( so next week I should be able to start giving it a good test as long as the weather holds out.  In the low 70s today and the same for the weekend!!!
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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2008, 11:03:22 PM »
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Is there any sign of lube on those rods the shield slides on?  

I was initially under the impression that the shield rotated.  I like the in-out movement, better.  (clean up your mind!)

Ed, it looks like the shield is fixed to the rods, and the rods slide in/out of the plastic housing.  Correct, Justin?
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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2008, 09:47:43 AM »
Yes.
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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2008, 05:16:13 PM »
Justin, keep us posted on your experiance with this setup.  I'm sure we all lust after better headlight performance.  I've also heard of some HID conversions that move the bulb instead of a shield.  Anyone had any first hand experience with other HID conversions?  
Also considering upgrading the tail light / brake light system with Hyper - lites.
http://hyperlites.com/
Any thoughts?
Thanks,  Ed   ;)

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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2008, 11:07:46 PM »
This is a pretty neato cool upgrade!

Thanks for posting all the pics and stuff!

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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2008, 05:11:41 PM »
The other bulb has been in several days and so far this one has not given any problems.  I mailed the defective bulb back to Xenon Link on Monday and was assured they would ship me a new replacement as soon as the defective bulb was received.

Observations:

I rode to school last night which is about a 40 mile round trip on semi-rural roads.  Overall impressions were that the headlight "seemed" much brighter, illuminated the road better, and apparently was not to obnoxious because nobody flashed their brights at me.  ;D One thing I noticed is that the headlight on 90% of the other vehicles on the road looked very yellow, my light appeared to be a pure white, and I did notice the assorted "bluish" tint vehicles.  8-)

When switching from low beam to high beam there is no difference in brightness, the only noticeable difference is the beam pattern.  This makes sense due to the High-beam only being a different shutter position.  On low beam the pattern is pretty much the same as with the H4 bulb but the "notched out" portion in the upper l/h quadrant of the bulb does not have as "crisp" a change from light to no light.  The notch is still there but not as crisply defined.  The low-beam did not seem to project high intensity light into the car interior when following behind cars in traffic and also the "notch" did appear to do it's job by cutting down on the light cast into the oncoming lane.

I think I will angle the headlight assembly "up" another couple of degrees until I find the spot where I start irritating people and then turn it back down a notch from there.   ;)

I am hoping my defective bulb is just a case of infant mortality as all-in-all I am reletively pleased with the results.  A nice side note, installation of the kit requires no existing stock wiring to be cut or touched in any way.  The HID harness (with fuses and relay) hooks to the battery positive and a chassis ground, you remove your H4 bulb, and then plug a section of the HID harness into the existing headlight bulb socket.  The kit gets all of it's juice from the battery via the relay and all the existing wiring does is to supply a signal to the relay to turn on and the high-beam wire is sampled through a diode and is routed to the shutter actuator.  Notice the interior of the headlight bucket on the later model R100s.  No more fuses, circuit board, and wiring rats-nest!  :D
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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2008, 10:37:31 PM »
So you bought the car kit to get the $30 discount on the "two-bike" price?

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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2008, 07:19:20 AM »
I was going to split the kit with somebody but once the second wiring harness is added, and additional shipping, it wasn't worth it so I have a "spare" system...  :P If somebody wanted to do two bikes for themselves they would save about $15 doing it that way...  But whether I tried to save a couple of bucks is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things as the same bulbs are used in both kits so that had nothing to do with the premature failure of the first bulb.  :-/
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Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2008, 07:50:38 PM »
Actually I thought the 2nd one was planned for one of the other bikes that sees regular use.

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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2008, 09:42:57 PM »
Not originally but it may go into the black R100 if it will fit in the overstuffed headlight bucket AND I can figure out where to hide the ballast...  Or the LS, if I ever get a good reflector and lens for it...
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Re: HID Conversion
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2008, 10:10:44 AM »
Hey Justin,

Howabout an update?  Is it still working?

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