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Author Topic: How many MPG does your house get?  (Read 986 times)

Offline wilcom

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How many MPG does your house get?
« on: December 16, 2014, 06:21:38 AM »
The thread on fuel costs got me  thinking about electric cars. I drive too far for E-cars to be practical  for me. At 30,000+ miles a year I would spend most of my time charging.

BUT........... since  the "green " wienies are installing FREE charging station around the city(with MY tax dollars) why not get an electric car and install an extra battery pack. Drive it to a FREE charging station, fill up and put it back in the garage...... and then plug my house into into the FREE electrons

Would I have enough energy to do me any good?  Since they're giving the stuff away................. I'm just say'n

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Offline Barry

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Re: How many MPG does your house get?
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2014, 11:44:14 AM »
A popular small electric car has a 24KWh battery which might power a small house for 2 days but the snags are all of the 24 KWh wouldn't be available without adversely affecting battery life. There would also be some % loss in  the inverter required to turn your battery voltage into AC. If you got 20KWh per charge that would only save you $4 at UK energyprices and your energy may be much cheaper than ours.

I suspect the real issue might be that The battery packs life could deteriorate at more than $4 per charge cycle which would negate the whole exercise.

My view is electric cars are not really Green while  fossil fuel are used to generate the electricity. The only reason they are remotely economically viable is because of the vastly lower tax rates imposed on electricity.  


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Offline Tony Smith

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Re: How many MPG does your house get?
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2014, 01:43:51 PM »
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A popular small electric car has a 24KWh battery which might power a small house for 2 days but the snags are all of the 24 KWh wouldn't be available without adversely affecting battery life. There would also be some % loss in  the inverter required to turn your battery voltage into AC. If you got 20KWh per charge that would only save you $4 at UK energyprices and your energy may be much cheaper than ours.

I suspect the real issue might be that The battery packs life could deteriorate at more than $4 per charge cycle which would negate the whole exercise.

My view is electric cars are not really Green while  fossil fuel are used to generate the electricity. The only reason they are remotely economically viable is because of the vastly lower tax rates imposed on electricity.  


 

I had a similar thought about the "free" charging stations and think that I would give it a try if it was a battery pack SWAP arrangement. although I *think8 that running my house through an inverter would be no more detrimental to battery life than using them for their intended purpose, the cost of battery replacement is sobering.

Aside from the potential foreshortening of battery life, the idea seems sound, especially when you live in a country where basic unleaded fuel is north of $1.60 per litre and going to increase regularly.

The power consumption of electric cars is not the issue for me from an ecological point of view - Yes the power is generated from non-green sources, but the amount of carbon and other nasties produced when the coal fired power station "makes" the electricity to charge my batteries is less than the combined cycle of manufacture and use of an alternate hydrocarbon fuel/

The real issue is that the manufacturing of the cars themselves is hardly "green" and the input cost on non-renewables to make batteries is staggering.
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