Incredible NY video

[Lucky_Lou]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=319_1380522846
Turns out he had already hit one of the bikers...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2438620/Shocking-video-Range-Rover-crashing-bikers-surround-vehicle-annual-street-ride.html
Lou

[Luca]

Turns out he had already hit one of the bikers...

It seems like that report is about the crash in the first 30 seconds of the video.

Gotta say, I don't feel so bad about the first crash.  It was reckless and aggressive riding.  The bike that pulled in front of the SUV, having already pushed it partway out of it's lane , cut the landy off by less than a bike's length.  Rather than split around the SUV, the motorcyclists were crowding it.  Guy in the cage was probably scared shitless.

...and when angry "bikers" come up and start grabbing his car door, can't say I'd blame him for taking off.  I somehow doubt it was a "let's exchange insurance information" kind of conversation.

[nhmaf]

My momma told me 2 wrongs don't make a right, but I do tend to agree with Luca's point that the guys on the bikes were not riding in a safe or sane manner and their actions most likely caused - or greatly contributed to the first accident that happens in the first 25 seconds.   It then quickly turns into a running street battle that escalates further, whereas the cyclists could have-should have simply called the cops with the plate # and followed at a distance until the cops stop the vehicle.

[steve hawkins]

Unbelievable stupidity from all involved.

A bad day for motorcyclists in general and a good day for the 'haters'

Rev. Light

[nhmaf]

News update does show this is a recurring problem with this 'gang' - and a number of them have been arrested.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/30/us/new-york-bikers-road-rage-video/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[k_enn]

I have seen video of this, and some sites don't show all of it.  As a SUV owner and a motorcyclist, I can't say that either side is without fault.

If you look at the video, you will see that there is only this one vehicle (SUV) on the road anywhere remotely near the bikers. If fact, it is the only non-motorocycle I have seen in the video. I strongly suspect that the bikers were out on a group ride when the SUV barged into their pack. Now, I have been on a number of escorted (often time police escorted) organized runs when other traffic is blocked for the motorcycles, and I have bikers and escorts do what was done here - slow and stop in front of the offending vehicle until all bikes are past.

So, for the start of the incident, the SUV owner may likely have been wrong by breaking into a pack of bikers (at least stupid if not wrong), and the bikers were wrong in stopping the SUV like it was an escorted run. Now, what you don't see in a number of the postings of the video is that a biker very quickly stops right in front of the SUV and gets bumped.  So was that biker a fault for cutting off and dramitically stopping right in front of the SUV on a highway, or was the SUV wrong for driving into that biker and break the biker's leg?   Flip a coin on that one as far as can I see from the all the videos.  But as long as the SUV driver was not doing a hit and run, there was no need for the bikers to come after him (which they did right after the initial accident). The bikers were in the wrong there. However, with bikers coming after him, I don't blame him for running over a few bikes (not bikers) to get away. I would do the same.

Once he took off, I don't blame the bikers for following him, but beating the guy was just wrong. Hold him for the cops and let the cops sort it out.

Using the helmet to break the driver window is pretty stupid, the guy just destroyed the inetgrity of the helmet and will now have to shell out some bucks to get a new one if he values his own head.

k_enn

[marcmax]

Not that I am condoning violence by a cage driver against a motorcyclist but I have never understood the misconception of danger to an auto driver by a group of motorcyclists. Anyone with any defensive driving skills or training could disabled the entire pack of motorcyclists that was chasing the SUV. There is no jury in the world that would not consider it self defense when a spouse and child are threatened by a group of 25-30 individuals on motorcycles.

[nhmaf]

IT is a problem group of "stunt" riders who do their asinine stunts in live traffic and frequently cause accidents or near misses, then congratulate each other as they post their dangerous successes on you tube.   These guys have been doing this sort of thing for sometime now.    Very early in the original video, you see that it is the bikes (20-30) that are just swarming around the SUV (they came up from behind), and instead of passing normally, clustered all around it to apparently use it as a moving obstacle etc.

One or more riders cuts off the SUV by essentially passing it while still in the SUV's lane and cutting in right in front of the front fender, then rapidly slowing down to setup some other asinine wheelie or other stunt, and brake checks the SUV, which ends up hitting the bike from behind and apparently knocking it over and breaking the leg of the rider.     Then, the entire swarm converge on the SUV when it dutifully stops b/c of the accident, pounding on the vehicle, breaking window, etc. until the driver is justly frightened and  gets out of there - running over a couple other bikes in the process and resulting in a chase that ends with the bikers beating up the driver so that he requires hospitalization, and the police arresting a number of the bikers.

Those miscreant morons on motorcycles created the entire problem, and hopefully will get what they deserve.   They are lucky that several of them aren't dead.

[k_enn]

As of today, two bikers arrested.  The one who broke the range rover's window and went after the driver (turned himself in), and the one who started it all by cutting off the SUV and suddenly stopping in front of it and getting hit.  

Personally, I feel that more bikers should have been arrested as accomplices, aiding and abetting, and/or have their licenses revoked for reckless driving/riding.

k_enn