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Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2010, 04:19:44 PM »
That is quite a story.  Thanks for relating it.

Less gas - ignite sooner! :)

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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2010, 09:37:36 PM »
Mike, I think you get the award - thankfully not posthumously!
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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2010, 09:46:14 AM »
 :o  Wow, Mike!  As Graham says "not a good idea".  Yikes.
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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2010, 07:36:04 PM »
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I bet the Texas boys had real guns to play with.  

Yes, we had real guns but not to play with.  We were taught to hunt and to respect firearms.  Woe be unto the young man that was caught "playing" with a real firearm.

But, when it came to things like cars, boats, and motorcycles, on more than one occasion you might hear someone say "Hey, hold my beer and watch this!"
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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2010, 08:05:14 AM »
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I bet the Texas boys had real guns to play with.  

Yes, we had real guns but not to play with.  We were taught to hunt and to respect firearms.  Woe be unto the young man that was caught "playing" with a real firearm.

But, when it came to things like cars, boats, and motorcycles, on more than one occasion you might hear someone say "Hey, hold my beer and watch this!"

These stories just scare me though....  


Joke: What are the last 4 words of a redneck?







Ans:  Hey Bubba watch this!

Pat 2:  What are the last 6 words of his dumber cousin?








Ans:  Aw Hell!  I can do that!

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This all reminds me of the "getting the fuel out of the fuel tank story."  I havn't laughed so hard since I read the Homer Hickum story of how he blew up his mother's white pickett fence!   :D

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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2010, 12:01:12 PM »
Ah, adolescence, cherry bombs and M80s!

There's a high bridge (several, really) in Lynchburg, VA, where I grew up. My neighborhood buddy and I built model planes in his basement & had our own way of disposing of those that we no longer wanted — we blew them up in mid-air. The models had insufficient wing surface to create much lift, a deficiency made worse by  the weight of the CB taped to them, so they were aerodynamic bricks. Still, the vertical drop (maybe 150-200 feet over a wooded ravine & railroad track) was great enough to allow detonation before the package hit the ground. Pretty impressive to a kid!

Cherry bombs also made great pretend-antiaircraft devices when used in conjunction with a Wham-o Slingshot. Safe operation required a two-kid crew: a gunner to load the unlighted CB into the slingshot pouch and an igniter to light the fuse. Even the flash and smoke puff appear reasonably authentic to a kid, and detonation occurred far enough (and high enough, hopefully) to be very loud, but harmless.

One kid in our neighborhood made "squirrel bombs" by dipping cherry bombs into glue, rolling them in BBs, and letting them dry. Delivery system into the tree canopy was the Wham-o. (BTW, the "Wrist Rocket" was a later Wham-o improvement. If the wrist brace more powerful elastic had been available at the time, the greater range and accuracy would have been most welcome.)

Ever see the result of dropping an M80 (AKA "depth charge" or "ash can") into an empty glass one-gallon vinegar jug? A lot of shrapnel, fortunately on a mostly high-angle trajectory. (Swift legs and a wall or bank for cover are advisable.) The M80 was powerful enough that it could be used for illegal "fishing" if dynamite was not available. (That's one thing we never did.)

And then there were the principles of physics that could be learned from those devices—for example, the enhanced destructive power of underwater explosions. Drop a CB or M80 into a toilet (the fuses had an oxidizer in them and would burn underwater), and the result usually was a big bang and a big mess from water splash. (At worst, the porcelain bowl would shatter, a cost of "only" a few hundred dollars.) But drop one into the loo and then flush it, and the destruction is much more severe, according to where detonation occurs. The best case, where detonation is still within the porcelain fixture, leaves nothing above the level of the floor (essentially the same damage as the previous scenario). OTOH, if the explosive had passed into the pipe, it likely ruptures, perhaps shattering completely, the pipe inside the floor or wall. Neither good nor amusing, but crudely educational.

Case in point: the latter kind of explosion occurred in a high school graduation prank within the class two years ahead of mine. The perpetrator was an honor student who had won just about every athletic and academic award that could be won. He was stripped of as many honors as possible, and his parents had to pay a huge repair bill to the school. (He played football for a prestigious university, became a physician, and about 20 years later, went to prison for Medicare fraud. Go figure where the short was in his brain.)

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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2010, 03:10:50 PM »
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Case in point: the latter kind of explosion occurred in a high school graduation prank within the class two years ahead of mine. The perpetrator was an honor student who had won just about every athletic and academic award that could be won. He was stripped of as many honors as possible, and his parents had to pay a huge repair bill to the school. (He played football for a prestigious university, became a physician, and about 20 years later, went to prison for Medicare fraud. Go figure where the short was in his brain.)  
That is my favorite part of your VERY entertaining post!  (except for the BB encrusted CB).


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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2010, 07:09:01 PM »
I had some friends who got into alot of trouble with their fathers after blowing up some fenceposts on their dairy farm with M-80s.  The dairy cattle didn't care for the noise, either.

I think that they were inspired by the 'Dukes of Hazzard' TV show here in the US - they had taped an M80 onto an old arrow and were shooting at fenceposts.

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2010, 11:14:54 AM »
Had to google M80 to see what they were all about intresting stuff especialy this bit

There have been documented cases of users losing their fingers or hands[5]. Peter Criss, drummer for the rock band Kiss, was a victim of an M-80 during a 1976 Richmond Coliseum concert when a fan threw an M-80 onto the stage, nearly knocking him off his drum riser and leaving him with partial hearing loss for the remainder of the night.[6]

Pity they didnt throw some into the audience to drowned the din.....
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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2010, 12:27:43 PM »
M-80s and toilets -- what a combination.  When I was in high school, someone took a M-80, placed it on the floor behind the toilet in the boys room, lit a cigarette and used that as a fuse extension that would last over 5 minutes.  Virtually every student in the school knew this was coming and not to use that boy's room -- but not *every one.*   The class nerd did not know, and he went into that stall to take a dump.  While he was at it, the M-80 let loose and blew apart the toilet he was sitting on.  Fortunately, he was not hurt, and the administration never found out who did it.  

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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2010, 12:54:32 PM »
When I was a young lieutenant we  had great fun by sending up  m80es tied to  meteorological balloons filled with hydrogen. They gave a tremendous whoosh when the hydrogen ignited :-)

It was a cheap way to train our artillery observers in observing air rounds and in foggy weather the illusion was almost complete.

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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2010, 07:05:00 PM »
Too bad M80s and Cherry Bombs, and Silver Salutes, are no longer available as they sure a lot of fun!  I bet Bob could use some of Altritter's "squirrel bombs" on his pet rats!  ;D
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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2010, 01:16:00 AM »
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I bet Bob could use some of Altritter's "squirrel bombs" on his pet rats!

Especially if he wants additional air circulation in ceiling and walls.  ;D

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"Wait a a couple minutes to let the gasoline work its way into the brushpile" -so we did,  but what this REALLY allowed was for the gasoline to vaporize, and with the temperature inversion we were experiencing, the fumes then to flow down the brushpile and fill the entire yard up to about 6-12 inches from the ground with gas vapors.   So, when I did finally toss a flaming paper onto the top of the pile, the flames shot up, and then down the brushpile, sending a wall of flame across the entire yard in all directions.

[I'll have to choose my words carefully for this one, lest I offend someone.] This reminds me of a public health practice used by the US Forces in Vietnam. On the firebases and in the base camps, the toilet facilities ("latrines" for the Army, "heads" for the Marines) were outdoor privies that collected the material in empty oil (or gasoline) drums that had been cut into two cylindrical halves and placed under the privies with a shallow layer of diesel fuel in the bottom. The Army hired local (i.e., Vietnamese civilian) laborers to clean the latrines by dragging the half-drums out into the open, pouring an additional quantity of diesel into the drums, and lighting them. The diesel burns with a huge, black, greasy smoke cloud, but it sanitizes quite well. (If anyone remembers watching television news footage of morning interviews on Vietnam firebases, that's what the numerous clouds of black smoke were in the background. They weren't battle damage, just burning honeypots.)

The system worked quite well, but there was an occasional problem: Vietnamese laborers, many of whom were not literate in either English or Vietnamese, were not universally capable of distinguishing a container of diesel from one of gasoline. In the mornings, American soldiers often smoked during their morning trips to the privy. In their half-asleep state, many of them found that the most convenient way to dispose of a lit cigarette was to flip it into the diesel drum below. Under these circumstances, a cigarette ordinarily will not ignite diesel fuel—but gasoline is another matter altogether! A colleague told me of being nearly asleep one morning, dropping a cigarette between his legs into the hole, and as the cigarette was on its way down, having this horrible fear rush, with the flashing question: OMG, is it diesel or gasoline??? Truthfully, I never heard of this causing a fatality, but I did hear that some privies were destroyed, and guys sustained minor to moderate burns. (Picture it as the 1960s version of a wax job.)


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Re: Lucky we are still alive
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2010, 10:50:07 AM »
There's quite a bit of "asking for trouble" in industry. When I was young (a long time ago) I worked a while for British Rail in London, the tracks had third-rail electrification and it was accepted that newcomers had to walk on the live rail. Just to show how tough we were....It was I think 700 volts and sky-high amps. A good-hearted chargehand showed me how to do it without too much danger but I still go a bit cold thinking about it!

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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2010, 02:40:55 PM »
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There's quite a bit of "asking for trouble" in industry. When I was young (a long time ago)  

Reminds me of a trick that the Electricians played on apprentices who were made to hold the output leads of a "Megger"  and given a high voltage shock.
 
The trick was that the apprentice was told to hold on tight and if they did as they were told they presented a relatively low resistance to the Megger which prevented it from producing a very high voltage so the shock wasn't too bad.

If they were scared and held the leads lightly they presented a high resistance to the Megger which allowed it to produce a very high voltage that gave them quite a nasty shock.

Any apprentice who was not smart enough to learn something from the experience would never make it as an Electrician

(A "Megger" is an insulation tester which produces a very high voltage but little current)
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