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Offline Bob_Roller

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Real Estate Foreclosures
« on: July 24, 2010, 02:59:54 PM »
Looks like another wave of real estate foreclosures is happening in the neighborhood .

Anyone else have a lot of foreclosures in your area ?

Seems like about every 6 months or so, another 6 or 7 homes fall into foreclosure .

The latest ones around me, have the original owners, and they've been there 13-16 years !!!
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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2010, 05:29:31 PM »
Fortunately, for many homeowners, a foreclosure notice - aka: posted for foreclosure- rarely results in the loss of one's home. Banks and mortgage companies do not want your home nor do they want to be in the real estate sales business. It's a headache for all concerned.

Fortunately for the homeowner, after their property is posted, avenues toward refinance and alterations to mortgages open up. Thank goodness.

The sub-prime lenders, and there are / were many, created a situation whereby potential home buyers did not need to prove income amounts to buy a home. Less than ethical lenders encouraged prospects to "fudge" on applications that required no credit or financial verifications. It took awhile for this home mortgage disaster to come full circle, but here we are.

In Denton County (Texas) foreclosure postings are running 600-700 monthly. Most are buyers trapped in balloon payment, sub-primes mortgages that are eating them alive... financially speaking.

My grandfather used to say, "If you can't afford it, don't buy it."  
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Re: Real Estate Foreclosures
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2010, 06:01:32 PM »
All of the properties that have gone into foreclosure in my subdivision in the last 2 years, all of the homeowners moved out, or were evicted .

That's about 100 homes out of the 300 or so homes in this subdivision .

Had three families evicted on my block in the span of one week .

Not too uncommon to come home from work at 2-3 am, and see a U-Haul moving truck in the driveway of one of these homes, and the residents removing their belongings and gone by daybreak, never to be seen again .

We've had vacant homes sit here for over 2 years before being sold .
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2010, 11:07:36 AM »
Unfortunately what I'm hearing from some folks who have gone through this is that the banks don't seem to be receptive to efforts to recast the mortgage, and some have had the house foreclosed while they were still negotiating with the bank. Banks seem reluctant to make these foreclosed homes available for purchase once they do own them. One fellow I know just put his house up for a normal sale and was told by his agent that it should sell fast because it was a house someone could actually buy. Most on the market are foreclosures that the banks seem more than happy to sit on. Banks take a risk when they lend yet seem unwilling to accept the consequences when that risk fails.
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Re: Real Estate Foreclosures
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2010, 01:14:38 PM »
I probably should have put this a different way, these properties have been issued a notice of trustee sale, or as it plays out here, an open auction on the front steps of the county courthouse .

They've already gone through the entire foreclosure process, this is the final step in the process .
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2010, 11:18:43 AM »
I think we have the same problems here as in the US: banks needing to be bailed out by the taxpayers because of enormous numbers of bad loans. What I don't understand and what never gets mentioned in the media: all those bad loans mean that thousands of individuals and businesses borrowed money but did not pay it back -- well surely that meant a big book profit for them? Or not? They clearly didn't all go bankrupt. If I borrowed a lot and never paid it back, I'd be a lot richer, wouldn't I?

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« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2010, 06:35:28 AM »
Not if the money is used to buy a house and the house is put up for collateral for the loan which means that if you fail to pay the mortgages, the house goes back to the bank. The money put into the house by yourself will be lost because the bank will try to sell the house to the bidder who bids just enough to cover the loan from the bank. If the loans aren't covered by the sale or there are no bids, the bank will suffer a loss, you will suffer a loss and I will have to pay through my taxes because my government have chosen to cover the banks' losses.

Did I mention that the banks of course do not release you from your obligations if the house doesn't bring in enough money to pay your loans? Result: You are left with no house, no money and a debt you cannot pay because you haven't got any work. And the reason you haven't got any work is that your employer didn't get payed by one of his big costumers and therefore couldn't pay his bank who then declared him bankrupt and thus ensured that they'd never get their money back neither from your employer nor you!

Aren't you happy that I'm still working and paying my taxes thus ensuring that the bankmanagers can get their bonusses?

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Re: Real Estate Foreclosures
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2010, 08:38:04 AM »
I am of the opinion that - regardless of how bitter a pill it may be to swallow - "no more bank bailouts" should be the policy from here on.

Certainly the government doesn't come to MY aid if I make stupid business decisions and am forced with going out of business.
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« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2010, 11:39:48 AM »
If the governments don't bail out at least some of the banks, then we would have a disaster worse than the 1930s.  But by bailing out some of the banks, it creates "moral hazard", the feeling that a bank can do anything and the government will bail them out.  This is also called privatizing the profit and socializing the loss.  

Some kind of functioning banking system is required for our modern society.  It can't be unregulated and it can't be completely government run.  The only thing that has a chance is to separate out the vital functions and protect and regulate them enough so that they continue to function, even when the unregulated speculative parts melt down.  That's what the Glass-Steagall act attempted to do in the US, until it was repealed in 1999.  

Unfortunately, what is considered vital and what is not changes over time.  It's unlikely that any law is likely to follow the changes in the financial system very quickly.  So, we may fix it now, for the current situation, but it will undoubtedly happen again; and depending on how well we fix it now, it will happen again sooner or later.

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« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2010, 02:20:26 PM »
I note the financial crisis has now reached Cuba what with subsidies from there former soul mate drying up.Personally i think were going into a double dip especially if our LibCons have there own way last week we had the largest corporate failure in UK history with Conaught hitting the bumpers 10,000 employees and a shed load of subcontractors in the s**t.Talk about the bankers screwing us how can a multi billion company on government contracts go under, theres been no info on what the directors were creaming.The current governments policy of letting the private sector pick up the slack in the job market is fundamentally flawed when the private sector is loosing jobs at a staggering rate.
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Re: Real Estate Foreclosures
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2010, 01:28:49 PM »
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Fortunately, for many homeowners, a foreclosure notice - aka: posted for foreclosure- rarely results in the loss of one's home. Banks and mortgage companies do not want your home nor do they want to be in the real estate sales business. It's a headache for all concerned.

Fortunately for the homeowner, after their property is posted, avenues toward refinance and alterations to mortgages open up. Thank goodness.
 

Unfortunately, Monte, that doesn't seem to be happening in many parts of the country. A Northern Virginia county just south of DC is in terrible shape, and the banks aren't helping at all. (And the bigger the bank, the more heartless the lender, it appears.)

There was a frightening story in the Washington Post earlier this week, illustrating that even families with previously unassailably high household incomes are vulnerable. The subject was a multi-income-source family, two earners, total family income considerably >$200,000, two children, living in a modest home with (for Northern Virginia)a modest mortgage. Older child contracts a rare, terminal neurological illness and requires 24/7 attention. (The younger child has the same condition, but it is less advanced.) Enormous medical costs, crazy-making stress, family fell behind in mortgage payments. Family applied for modification of mortgage terms (lower payments), and were told that their application was approved. Then a few days later, they are hit with a formal foreclosure notice and were told rudely by a bank official that the modification-of-terms application had been rejected. (The bank official nastily spelled out the word "r-e-j-e-c-t-e-d" to them over the phone, according to the news story.) Their outlook: eviction within months. Then a postscript in this morning's paper. (Was it merely coincidental to the fecal storm of outrage over the first story?) The bank announced, with fanfare, that it granted the family's appeal and approved the modification of terms. (This is one of the biggest, and IMO, the worst, of the banks.)

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Some kind of functioning banking system is required for our modern society.It can't be unregulated and it can't be completely government run.The only thing that has a chance is to separate out the vital functions and protect and regulate them enough so that they continue to function, even when the unregulated speculative parts melt down.That's what the Glass-Steagall act attempted to do in the US, until it was repealed in 1999.
 

How true!! I was horrified when Congress repealed Glass-Steagall, with the usual suspects leading the charge for repeal. Human nature and legal precedent declaring that corporate management's overriding duty is to maximize shareholder wealth (interpreted as being measured in the next quarterly earnings report) made the financial disaster a foregone conclusion. You're so correct that Glass-Steagall was inspired by the abuses of financial institutions that were a major cause of the Great Depression.

FWIW, Sen. Carter Glass, a Virginia newspaper owner in my home town, was anything but a big-government liberal. In fact, he had the views of a feudal baron, and was alleged to have made a public statement to the effect that a working man (early 1900s, remember) "is not worth more than a dollar a day."  >:( My grandparents, who were marginally prosperous during the Depression and hardly radical leftists (my grandfather was a first-line foreman on the railroad), loathed Carter Glass because of his socio-political views.) So, I am convinced that Glass-Steagall was actually a conservative statute designed to prevent anything like the Depression happening again. So long as it was law, the mischief that occurred over the past decade likely could not have happened. Far as I am concerned, its repeal was achieved by the devious leading the stupid.

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« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2010, 02:45:16 PM »
 [/quote] ...Far as I am concerned, its repeal was achieved by the devious leading the stupid.[/quote]

I believe you nailed it with this statement. [smiley=thumbup.gif]

Upside down, non-qualifying, balloon payment mortgages, gained without legitimate financial qualification by greedy borrowers whom were then patently mislead by unscrupulous investment lenders... well, in actuality both got what basic greed instigated.

The blame must be shared by both parties. There will be exceptions, as the tragic example quoted, but if you do not educate yourself and be totally honest with the man in the mirror, you may very well be doomed from the beginning. You just don't know it yet.

The Great State of Texas has weathered the real estate mortgage fiasco and collapse far better than most states. Yes, foreclosures and Sheriff's sales have occurred but their numbers are well below the nationwide levels. Texas' increasing legal population, plus our lower costs of living, are contributors to our ability to weather this storm.

I have trouble working up too much sympathy for people now whining about having to pay the piper. Many brought the problem to their own front door.  

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« Reply #12 on: September 19, 2010, 03:00:55 PM »
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I have trouble working up too much sympathy for people now whining about having to pay the piper. Many brought the problem to their own front door


AMEN Brother Monte !!!!


Foreclosues continue in my neighborhood, there's seven more in foreclosure in the last four weeks .
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