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Author Topic: Getting Ready To Lose My Job  (Read 3866 times)

Melena

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Re: Getting Ready To Lose My Job
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2010, 09:27:55 PM »
Rob,

We have something here in California called Jobs Link.  It's associated with EDD (Employment Department) They have different classes that help you write up your resume and figure out how to transfer your skills.  Also they help you figure out where to go to get a job.  They say in this job market that people get jobs mainly by networking, so I think you are on the right track.

Thought that might help.  Check with your local state employment office.  I'm sure they must have something like that in Indiana.


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Re: Getting Ready To Lose My Job
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2010, 09:00:49 AM »
Rob, SQL is one of 5 languages I use all the time in working on websites.  I build websites mostly using the Drupal open source CMS.  Drupal is written in PHP to run on a web server and delivers pages in HTML and CSS with some JavaScript.  All of the content in Drupal is stored in a SQL (MySQL preferably) database.

At this level, SQL is just snippets of code to search, insert, replace and delete data.  I have a friend who works for a county agency in Oregon and writes "serious" SQL that include stored procedures, views, subqueries and other, more esoteric stuff.  

The SQL language is pretty simple (and if you're out of the mainframe world, you can see the heritage of it back to COBOL), but the lingo of JOINS (INNER, OUTER, LEFT and RIGHT), KEYS and other such stuff is opaque.  

If I can help, let me know.  Depending on what you're trying to learn, you may find one of the "cookbook" books will help you to understand it through examples.

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Re: Getting Ready To Lose My Job
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2010, 09:37:43 AM »
My problem with computers is, I have never been formally educated, and book learning about them quickly puts me to sleep.
As an operator, I would go in, do my job, and go home.  

Other than the name, I never learned a lick about COBOL, either.

Mostly I know how to make images and links appear in a forum postings.  (Before they made it easy!)

darrylri

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Re: Getting Ready To Lose My Job
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2010, 06:21:50 PM »
Well, I learned the most about computers on my own, after taking a BASIC class in the 10th grade.  I did eventually get a BS degree going to school at night, after about 13 years.  By then I had been programming professionally for about a decade.

So, you've learned some about HTML.  It describes how a web page is structured.  There's some formatting that can be done with HTML, but the standards committees are trying to remove that.  They would like everyone to use CSS to describe things like bold, italic, fonts, sizes and colors.  Both of those languages are static and descriptive; they have very little to say about making web pages dynamic.  To do that, you add JavaScript, which runs in the user's browser and can create and delete HTML and change CSS information.  All of this is downloaded from the websever.  Often these are just text files on the webserver, but if they are customized for each user, then probably a program written in PHP creates or embellishes the HTML.  If the information needs to come from a SQL database, PHP provides a way to pass SQL statements to the database and get results back.

To get started with just HTML, you can use Notepad or any simple text editor to create a web page on your local machine.  After saving it, you can double click on it and view it in your browser.  In this way, with a book on HTML, you can teach yourself to write HTML and test it on your own PC.  You can do the same with CSS and JavaScript.  

(There are much better, free editors than Notepad, but you don't have to have anything more than a browser to start learning web programming.)

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Re: Getting Ready To Lose My Job
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2010, 06:56:43 PM »
I think I am going to go after a PC tech-related job.

While looking at Craigs List in my daughter's area, I stumbled on a 'Computer Services Technician' position.  And it is for the county library system - the same place she is working part time and expecting to be hired on when she graduates! lol!

I'm not sure she is ready to "call Dad" when she needs IT support at work!
Besides the timing is all wrong, I need to keep my big money job until the end.  Unemployment from this job will be better than anything I can make in Lycoming Co., PA, I am sure.

But to that end, I ran out and bought a A+ Certification All-In-One Guide for Dummies book.  
I hope to take and pass the A+ Cert. test before I hit the streets.

Offline Ed Miller

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Re: Getting Ready To Lose My Job
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2010, 01:58:04 PM »
"Well, I learned the most about computers on my own, after taking a BASIC class in the 10th grade.  I did eventually get a BS degree going to school at night, after about 13 years."

I know it's weird, but that was one language I never learned.  Neat3, Cobol, Pascal, and Fortran, yeah.  Then I took one chemistry class in college and never looked back.   :)

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Re: Getting Ready To Lose My Job
« Reply #21 on: April 12, 2010, 02:15:04 PM »
Ed,
Now that's funny. I never could figure out how to balance redox reactions!
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azcycle

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Re: Getting Ready To Lose My Job
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2010, 03:05:14 PM »
Good luck, Rob... I'm sure you'll find something. :)

Darryl... I'm in the beginning stages of teaching myself Drupal. I know just enough PhP to make myself dangerous.  I design websites (self taught) using Dreamweaver (html and css) but really need to start teaching myself some more complex scripting and database stuff.  

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Re: Getting Ready To Lose My Job
« Reply #23 on: April 13, 2010, 10:35:14 AM »
I faced the same thing in 2003.  Been a computer specialist and network admin for over 20 years but skill-set didn't keep up with the times as I was more worried about keeping my infrastructure tuned than lobbying for new skills.  Now I thread pipe and do stuff on the side.

Don't be averse to totally changing careers, maybe find something to do that you've always wanted to...
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Re: Getting Ready To Lose My Job
« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2010, 11:06:37 AM »
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I think I am going to go after a PC tech-related job.

While looking at Craigs List in my daughter's area, I stumbled on a 'Computer Services Technician' position.And it is for the county library system - the same place she is working part time and expecting to be hired on when she graduates! lol!
 

Rob

Schools may also be worth a look.

I was made redundant 10 years back after 27 years as an Electrical Engineer. I took a Temporary job as an IT Technician in a High School, got to like it and finished up as a Network Manager  with 5 Servers and 500 computers to look after. When I started I knew very little at least on the Server/Network side.
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