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Author Topic: Lord, someone stop me......  (Read 5620 times)

J_Hirst

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Lord, someone stop me......
« on: July 06, 2008, 03:26:26 PM »
or I may never be able to ride this cow again!




Offline montmil

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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2008, 05:04:19 PM »
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or I may never be able to ride this cow again!

Is it bad?  Wuz up?  I see some bits missing from the front end but my R65 looked the same before I... uh oh.  Is you doing what I been doing?  Spill it.
Monte Miller
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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2008, 03:22:34 AM »
It is quite normal for children to take their toys apart to see how they work.

You never know you might grow up to become an engineer!

Or you might discover what lurks beneath and start to understand how it all works...... :P

Now to simplify that front end!

a couple of ears for the headlight and a digital instrument set-up......ooer!

Steve H
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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2008, 10:43:28 AM »
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It is quite normal for children to take their toys apart to see how they work. You never know you might grow up to become an engineer!
Or you might discover what lurks beneath and start to understand how it all works...... :P
Now to simplify that front end! a couple of ears for the headlight and a digital instrument set-up......ooer!
Steve H

Hoorah for the simple guy! [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

As a young pup, I dismantled ol' Dad's power lawnmower. We had to take it to the local Fix-It Shop to get it running again.  Seems I had reinstalled the con rod cap improperly.  I did see how it worked... ultimately.

You'll enjoy the Vapor (if that's your choice?) digital instrumentation.  In reading the entire manual I noted that: 1) Unit is made in the USofA; and 2) Extended time in direct sunlight can darken the screen! UhOh.  Made a Vapor Koozie that stows in the tool tray.  Now I have this weird hole chopped in my Cabriolet's sun screen.  [smiley=happy.gif]



Bought a cheapie sun visor at our local 99 Cent Store.  Made a paper mock-up, cut up the sun screen and used double-faced carpet tape to secure the folds. Control cables secure the bird cage cover. Slightly tacky but oh so elegant. [smiley=ROTFLMAO.gif]

 


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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2008, 07:08:07 PM »
Monte,
I think you need to contact the folks who make the Vapor and offer this design up as an official accessory with you being the contracted supplier!
rich
who currently has a commercial sewing machine on his dining room table
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"We can't stop here. This is bat country".

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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2008, 05:54:12 AM »
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Monte,
I think you need to contact the folks who make the Vapor and offer this design up as an official accessory with you being the contracted supplier!  rich who currently has a commercial sewing machine on his dining room table

My wife would understand you so totally, Rich. For several months, I referred to our kitchen as, "The Sewing Room".  So many projects for the grandchildren...  For me, I'm the barefoot child of a shoemaker when it comes to getting my damaged jeans mended!

A commercial machine is very valuable. I mooch "industrial strength" sewing favors from my ex-wife's husband who owns a parachute rigging business. The things we stoop to...  ::)
Monte Miller
Denton, TEXAS
1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

J_Hirst

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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2008, 11:56:58 AM »
I took apart the front end because the turn signal post broke off.  Saw Montmil's bike with the turn signals on the headlight ears, and thought that was the way to go.

In a nutshell: Removed windscreen, removed headlight assembly, removed dash and tach/speedo units, disconnected all wiring, disconnected brake line and throttle cable, removed bracket for modification.  While at it, I dismantled and cleaned throttle assembly since it was sticky, and removed handlebars so I could get everything up there nice and clean.  I also removed the taillight, rear turn signal bracket, and licence place bracket -- all metal got sanded and repainted, and even the light housings got a fresh coat of paint.  Tried to find replacement reflectors, but couldn't find any locally, so the aluminum got sanded and painted black.

I have since removed remaining turn signal post, filled holes, sanded, and painted the bracket  (not perfect, but better than $120 for a new one.)  Ordered new long-stalk LED signals to mount to the ears of the bracket - they're a bit sleeker than the stock, and should look good with the Givi windscreen.  If I like them, I'll order matching replacements for the rear and probably have a replacement rear signal bracket fabricated to receive the new led signals.

Now before I reassemble the mess, I have to do the following: replace brake line, replace throttle and speedo cables, new bulbs all around, and I'd love to get my speedo apart to make sure there are no broken gears, need for oil, etc. (ANYONE WHO CAN WALK ME THROUGH OPENING THE FRONT OF IT UP, PLEASE LET ME KNOW).

She'll be put back together more or less stock -- no changes from analog to digital.  Although I am intrigued by the Vapor setup, and may keep that in mind in the future.

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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2008, 12:04:44 PM »
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Now before I reassemble the mess, I have to do the following:  ...and I'd love to get my speedo apart to make sure there are no broken gears, need for oil, etc. (ANYONE WHO CAN WALK ME THROUGH OPENING THE FRONT OF IT UP, PLEASE LET ME KNOW).

My speedogaugeometer had been opened by a PO. I'd guess a small, flat bladed screwdriver from the looks of the "re-crimped on" rim. That may not be the only way... at least someone should've done a little better job of it. Like, touch up the chipped paint? IMHO anyway.
Monte Miller
Denton, TEXAS
1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

J_Hirst

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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2008, 01:14:19 PM »
At least I'm not the only one who considered that option.  Figured I'd ask before I did something I couldn't undo.

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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2008, 01:32:43 PM »
The comment on the display having problems with sun exposure, I installed an LCD thermometer on my bike, and in temperatures of 105 F. and above, the display 'washed out' and was unreadable.

Didn't seem to cause long term display issues.
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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2008, 01:43:19 PM »
yeah, the small screwdriver method worked for me. i wasn't too worried about scratching mine since it was shot. now i'm joining the ranks of the vapor users, should be here any day. [smiley=3stooges.gif]

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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2008, 01:47:44 PM »
Jonathan, look in that binder I gave you when you picked up Blue. There should be a long, printed post in there showing step by step how to get into, check and repair the speedo.

If not, it's here on the site, somewhere in the early days of the Technical section, originally posted by MsBuck, if I recall...  :-?


PS: Here ya go...
http://suraklyn.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1164689333
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J_Hirst

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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2008, 04:06:05 PM »
by chance did you already try this, steve?

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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2008, 06:30:58 PM »
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by chance did you already try this, steve?

Unfortunately, no, I did not. Sorry 'bout that.
There are also a couple of other good speedo posts in Technical if you look back.

Rob Valdez posted an excellent chart at about this same time showing speed at RPM, calculated with his GPS, and I used that as a reference point for a while, then discovered several posts here about the use of bicycle computers.

I then mounted the Sigma and never looked back...
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Re: Lord, someone stop me......
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2008, 06:55:49 PM »
I personally JB-Weld the damn thing back together after I "un-crimp" them.  I'm a bit too impatient to get the ring off in a re-crimpable state.
Justin B.

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