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Author Topic: My only question would be...  (Read 1731 times)

Offline davidpdx

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My only question would be...
« on: April 13, 2017, 02:21:38 PM »
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Offline Oconner

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Re: My only question would be...
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 03:10:15 PM »
Ha! even in my hipster/millennial neck of the woods it would only sell for around $4k!
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Offline Lucky_Lou

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Re: My only question would be...
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 04:10:29 PM »
I will export Gertie now...... only asking $10.499 in fact I will delivery her FOC.
Lou (sorry old girl but needs must)
« Last Edit: April 13, 2017, 04:12:33 PM by Lucky_Lou »
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Offline Tony Smith

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Re: My only question would be...
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2017, 04:56:43 PM »
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I will export Gertie now...... only asking $10.499 in fact I will delivery her FOC.
Lou (sorry old girl but needs must)

Lets start a price war. My R65 is a little "rough" So I'll part with it for $8k.


Something that has irritated me for same time is the silly money people get for R90s bikes.

Why?

Take a 76 R90s and a 77 R100RS - mechanically they are the same bike, albeit that the RS has a number of mechanical improvements, handles better and is more comfortable to ride at speed.

Also in my less than humble opinion the R90s looks like a (pretty) motorcycle whereas the RS is in a world of its own and manages to be both spectacular and beautiful at the same time.

So why, given pretty much identical condition, does the RS command approximately 50% of the price of the R90?
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Offline skippyc

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Re: My only question would be...
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2017, 05:01:36 PM »
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So why, given pretty much identical condition, does the RS command approximately 50% of the price of the R90?
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I find it hard to understand as well.

Offline Matt Chapter

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Re: My only question would be...
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2017, 10:06:17 AM »
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Also in my less than humble opinion the R90s looks like a (pretty) motorcycle whereas the RS is in a world of its own and manages to be both spectacular and beautiful at the same time.

This is where the money comes in... In my also less than humble opinion, the RS looks ok but weird, whereas the S is gorgeous.  Throw in the "orange creme" paint job that BMW did and the R90s is a clear winner in my book, as far as looks go.

Now again, based on looks, the RS is more real world, with the bigger fairing and windscreen.  But "real world" isn't as sexy.
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Offline Tony Smith

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Re: My only question would be...
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2017, 06:52:08 PM »
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Now again, based on looks, the RS is more real world, with the bigger fairing and windscreen.  But "real world" isn't as sexy.


Interesting perspective. I had not accounted for the passage of time. In 1977 when I saw my first R100RS I thought it looked like it came from another planet. I had to have one so I bought one. I still remember the visual shock of seeing the first one. Full fairings were very rare in the 70s, whereas my XS750 had a bikini fairing so there was no mystery there.

Don't get me wrong, by 1977 I'd decided that my next bike was a BMW, I considered and rejected a well used R75, didn't really consider the R80 because like most of the rest of the motorcycle world I was entrapped in the "more cc. good" lie. There was a new unsold R90s (orange iirc) on the local dealer's floor but by then I'd seen photos of the RS and I was in lust.


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Offline wilcom

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Re: My only question would be...
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2017, 10:20:46 PM »



[/quote]Something that has irritated me for same time is the silly money people get for R90s bikes.

Why?


Also in my less than humble opinion the R90s looks like a (pretty) motorcycle whereas the RS is in a world of its own and manages to be both spectacular and beautiful at the same time.

So why, given pretty much identical condition, does the RS command approximately 50% of the price of the R90?
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The price is a numbers game, they made about 18,000 R90s's and a billion RS models..... exclusivity breeds dollar signs....

I too thought the RS was the most gorgeous bike I had ever seen. The only other bike that ever made knees week was the Suzuki Katana 1000. That was the picture of speed standing still. What a great design. Our LS model has some of those same Katana lines but it just doesn't come together like it did on the Katana.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2017, 10:22:49 PM by wilcom »
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Offline Barry

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Re: My only question would be...
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2017, 01:28:31 AM »
It's nice to own a bike that isn't depreciating but beyond that I wouldn't want something so valuable that I'd have second thoughts before riding it.

I'm reminded of the classic bike races at Goodwood where immensely valuable MV Augsta's are left standing by 500cc Nortons and other more modest machines of half the engine capacity. I thought it rather pathetic. If the bike is too valuable to be ridden in more than a parade fashion then leave it at home.

The sad thing is prices are been driven up by speculators, not by motorcyclists.

The other sad things is the bike's merit in terms of how nice it is to ride and how well it performs does not necessarily have a bearing on it's value.  Have you seen the price of old scooters !
« Last Edit: April 18, 2017, 01:32:22 AM by bhodgson »
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Offline Tony Smith

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Re: My only question would be...
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2017, 02:27:57 AM »
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I'm reminded of the classic bike races at Goodwood where immensely valuable MV Augsta's are left standing by 500cc Nortons and other more modest machines of half the engine capacity.

I have a major snout on the organizers of the Goodwood historic races - seems that you must not bee so competitive that you show the locals up.

The Horner brothers were told in no uncertain terms that they would not be invited again, even though their perfectly legal Vincent was the star of the show.

So what if it had more than 90hp? It was built to the rules (which was never disputed) and expertly ridden.
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