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Author Topic: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist  (Read 4931 times)

Offline nhmaf

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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2011, 11:02:18 AM »
I heard an interview with a person who spends alot of time analyzing the wackos that commit crimes such as this - and it confirmed a theory I've held all along:   There are people out there who are just determined to hate and crave being noticed, they look for any "cause" or purpose to use as an idea or excuse to target their hideous actions.  They will do violence to get their 15 minutes of fame and their moment on the soapbox to proselytize, and that violence will take whatever form they can arrange - shootings, improvised explosives, fire, poison, etc.   At their core, it really boils down to just that, regardless of how they got to be that way -  What follows is my own thought on this:  

HOW people like this get to be this way can be anyone's guess - maybe mommy didn't breastfeed them or they were bullied as teenagers or whatever - they feel angry, rejected, and are looking to get their chance to get their footnote in recorded history, however they can.  

Many/most of these types are delusional and think that they are spiritual leaders of some sort, or philosophers needing to impart their "wisdom" on the illiterate masses.   They think that their actions will serve a higher purpose.  But they are all just basically angry, ignorant, potentates of their own imaginary empires - and cut from similar cloth, be they Ted Kaczynski, Timothy McVeigh, Derrick Bird, or Jerod Loughner.  Rather than providing them with a stage to work from, we should just put them down like the irreparably sick dogs that they are.   Give them a fair trial, followed by a first class hanging..

If this person was "sane" enough to plan out this horrible scheme in advance and act upon it, then surely, he is "sane" enough to be held accountable, stand trial, and be suitably punished for it.  I am sure that his lawyers will do their best to convince the juries otherwise, but I hope he pays the ultimate price that he exacted from 6 of his victims thus far.  

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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2011, 02:38:50 PM »
Well said, Mike! Hear, Hear!
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2011, 07:54:17 PM »
Wonderful news about her today - she hasn't spoken yet but  has opened her eyes and is able to move her arms and legs, fingers and toes in response to requests.  She is still partly sedated and has a long road ahead, but I am hoping to one day see her at a BMWMOA or BMWRA rally sometime in the future.  

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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2011, 08:48:57 AM »
I hope she recovers with little impact on her brain functions.  

It's such a shame that kooks like this cause so much mayhem and injure or kill so many people.

We all have our problems with politicians but I think the vitriolic nature of politics here in the US is getting out of hand.  Hopefully one good thing will come out of this and that is that the hateful vitriole will stop.  It might  be a good thing to write to the politician/party that is doing it and give them your feedback...no matter which party he/she belongs to.

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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2011, 09:51:03 PM »
Politics had nothing to do with this particular incident, the bozo was just a freak nutter...
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2011, 09:08:14 AM »
Justin I sure don't want to get into any political discussion on this board (especially since it's not my country) and I agree that there is something wrong with this guy (if I can believe what I have seen/read in the media) but my belief is that the probabilities are that if a politician gets shot then politics has much to do with why he/she was shot.

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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2011, 10:27:11 AM »
Reports I've heard, plus interviews with some of his "friends" indicate he didn't care much for politics, didn't pay much attention to news, and was not a talk-radio fan.  He apparently was cheesed at the Congresswoman over an perceived slight by her at some event he went to where he directed some questions her way and was not satisfied...
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2011, 05:56:14 PM »
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From today...

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/kelly-opens-up-about-giffords-recovery-12636619?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=12636793&page=2

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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 06:25:55 AM »
Sorry Rob.  Can you get it at home?

The gist of the vid is that she has recognition of husband at her side and is doing things that she did before the shooting: messaging his neck and fiddling with his wedding band.  It is quite personal and poignant and somewhat miraculous.
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2011, 02:41:04 PM »
The speed at which she appears to be coming back from this is phenomenal!  Must be the "Airhead blood" in her veins!  [smiley=bmw_smiley.gif]
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2011, 03:08:00 PM »
Item on the local news last night made my blood boil, there was a protest about job cuts at one of the local Councils (Doncaster i think??) they were waving placards with pictures of the council leader sporting a target on his head.......................Stupid sods
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2011, 04:40:51 PM »
Just for the record, I am so tired of hearing about her, I could scream. OK, too bad, feel sorry for her, but there are a million people a day dieing, starving, shot, stabbed, tortured, etc, all over the world, enough already with the media circus.

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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2011, 06:17:06 PM »
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Just for the record, I am so tired of hearing about her, I could scream. OK, too bad, feel sorry for her, but there are a million people a day dieing, starving, shot, stabbed, tortured, etc, all over the world, enough already with the media circus.

Ok, flame me, but just my opinion, back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, motorcyclist
« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2011, 01:55:20 AM »
Not your average Congressperson:

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