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Author Topic: R65 LS or R65 Mono - what to watch for  (Read 696 times)

plc

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R65 LS or R65 Mono - what to watch for
« on: April 03, 2008, 05:22:15 AM »
Hi All,

Tomorrow I am going to look at two R65s, an R65LS and an R65 Mono. The LS has 148,000 km on the clock, the Mono has 44,000 km on the clock. But the dealer admits that the Mono may have been around once.  Is there anything I should really watch out for when looking at bikes of this mileage?

I want to fit panniers and I know that may be slightly easier with the Mono, because the racks for that frame seem more readily available.

Best to all,
Paul

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Re: R65 LS or R65 Mono - what to watch for
« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2008, 10:25:46 AM »
Other than a good looking over, fluid leakage, and a test ride, there's no real reliable way to determine the condition of a bike, without taking it apart.

With the kind of use that the bikes have, you could be headed for some costly maintenance, unless you have some documentation of maintenance performed by previous owners.
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Re: R65 LS or R65 Mono - what to watch for
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2008, 10:45:16 AM »
Yes, it is hard to tell without some maintenance history/documentation.
But, unless you have your heart set on the LS, was has a certain "cachet"
(though mono R65s aren't that common either) I think that , all else being equal (which it may not be), that
you may have a better chance of the mono requiring less costly maintenance by design, than the LS.
Now, if the Ls was well cared for and the mono was not, this goes out the window, but consider:

1. The mono should have the improved valve seats for heat transfer, so one wouldn't EXPECT to have valve/head problems down the road
    with it.  If no documentation of the LS valves/seats being done already, then assume it will be coming up at some point.
2. Input shaft on the later model airheads (sometime after 85, but can't recall when) BMW started to hard chrome the transmission input
    shaft splines - making them a bit more durable.  Still not properly lube and care, but are less "delicate" in that regard.
3. As you indicated, the mono bike shares the same frame components as th R80 mono, so parts for frame and bodywork are much easier to find and are more likely available - certain LS body panel parts are NLA.  I think the same goes for the forks, shock, handlebars, etc - all are in common with the
R80 mono bikes, whereas the twinshock R65 models have shorter shock absorbers, and their own pannier mounts separate from the R80/R100 of the same period.

These things above can mean less $$$ in repairs in the near future, but again, without knowing the history or proper mileage of the bikes, it is
not easy to predict which would be better.

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Re: R65 LS or R65 Mono - what to watch for
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2008, 12:48:50 PM »
Although the milage on the Ls is high, if its in good nick then I'd be tempted in that direction mainly because I personally don't like the mono R65's.