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Offline MrRiden

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running lights
« on: February 19, 2009, 06:35:24 PM »
I've just gotten a hold of some red directional lenses and being the procrastinator I am have lost track of the fellow who sells the running light conversion kit. :-? Anyone have that handy? Thanks
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Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2009, 07:47:04 PM »
Paging Semper Gumby!


I believe he will have the answer.

And I think you get 4-ways and self-cancelling in the same kit!
« Last Edit: February 19, 2009, 07:47:45 PM by Rob_Valdez_79_R65 »

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Re: running lights
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2009, 09:15:27 PM »
Here's the link to the lenses:

http://www.shop.coolbeammoto.com/product.sc?categoryId=4&productId=6


Gumby's done the research on the full system.  (I want to do it too, but waiting for uncommitted funds)

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Re: running lights
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2009, 04:55:36 PM »
Sorry to Take so long to get back to y'all.

You want a Kisan SM-1 to make it work.  Splices in to you system with no extra switches.  Takes some getting used to.  I have the dip switches on the box set to full bright for the running lights and Long Cancel (about 40 flashes.)  The nice thing is if you remember you can still turn the signals off early.  Turning on the right flasher 3 times and back to center off in 3-5 seconds turns on 4 way flashers.  Turning on the left flasher three times turns on the "Test" pattern which is really what I would consider an emergency flasher (as in my wife is going to the hospital and I need to get there as fast as possible).  This alternates the right and left flasher.  To get out of four-way or emergency flasher you just turn the turn signal switch back to the right or left until it turns off.  In running light mode your green turn signal indicators will "glow".  This is normal.   8-)

Here is the box:  http://www.kisantech.com/popup/multiimage.php?product=SM-1

And the site:  http://www.kisantech.com/index.php?cat_id=4

I had one failure during the warranty period and Kisan promptly sent me a new box (blown diode).  

I forgot to mention that the box replaces the flasher in the eltronic juction box containing the fuses on the RH side of my 1980 bike.  Your results may vary.

I also have a Kisan Tail Blazer in my brake light lense: http://www.kisantech.com/index.php?cat_id=3  

I installed the  KF-10W-S and had to file it down a bit to get it to fit.  I think this is now the 10W-D but check with Kisan.

Good luck,
« Last Edit: February 20, 2009, 05:00:35 PM by Semper_Gumby »
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Re: running lights
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2009, 06:13:44 PM »
Excellent! Much appreciated! Were you able to simply plug it in or were some short jumpers required?
rich
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Re: running lights
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2009, 07:25:57 PM »
If you want just the turn signal cancellers then you just plug the box in.  If you want the running lights then you have to splice two wires into the turn signal wires.  It all happens under the seat and is simple.  

Note:  The splices are accomplished with those push connectors. After 4 years they are starting to get wonky and I am think about removing them and just soldering the splices together.  Corrosion!
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Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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Re: running lights
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2009, 10:08:21 PM »
4 years of your kind of riding is a pretty good show for those cheezy connectors (that I refuse to use...).  ;)

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Re: running lights
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2009, 10:04:52 AM »
Are the connectors to which you refer called Posi-Taps and the other that joins wire called Posi-Locks?? The EnduraLast 400 watt upgrade kit came with some of these. I thought they were a good idea??
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Re: running lights
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2009, 08:47:33 PM »
I'm talking about the kind that pierce the insulation to form an electrical "connection".  It looks like that is what the Posi-Taps do, and while they are an improvment over the original taps, I don't agree that it is satisfactory for a "quality" installation.  

I have used the little round things that have threaded ends to hold wires in place (for my aux. brake lights).  I thought they were o.k., but still not as good as solder and heat-shrink, IMO...


Most of that stuff is developed for the lowest common denominator, I'm afraid.
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Re: running lights
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2009, 11:28:58 AM »
Thank you Rob.
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Re: running lights
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 11:37:38 AM »
Sue, if your connectors are the ones that have a little "blade" thingy inside, and you squeeze them together with pliers then they are OK for a while but will eventually cause problems - in my opinion.  My '95 RT had a few of these to the headlight (looks like somebody had something connected into the circuit at one time) and the "splices" caused an intermittent in my high-beam.
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Re: running lights
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2009, 10:29:38 AM »
+1 what Justin said.  Eventually corrosion will interfere with the connection.  
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Re: running lights
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2009, 07:05:53 PM »
I've had some pulsating brake lights [electropods] hanging 'round the garage and decided to install them while waiting for the running light thing a ma jig. I hate to cut ,splice or even solder connections as there are downfalls to all these methods. My choice was to purchase some "piggyback" spade connectors [radio shack 64-3064] and elegantly bridge on to the circuit of my choice. Want to go back to bone stock? no problem, simply remove and Bobs yer uncle!
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Re: running lights
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2009, 06:52:35 PM »
Rich,

I added the Electro Pods , a 16 led lightbar ('The Stopper', on the Motorrad Elektrik site) and replaced the red rear side reflectors with  six led reflector from Checker Auto Parts.

I had a real 'rats nest' of wires behind the Beacon 2 taillight.

I put solderless terminals on all of the wires, then put them on a terminal strip from Radio Shack, cleaned up the installation alot.
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