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Author Topic: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake  (Read 6234 times)

Offline mrclubike

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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2017, 09:47:02 PM »
Over 20,000 miles and counting
I  have just mounted the 2nd  frt and the 4th rear tire
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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2017, 11:37:12 AM »
Thanks for the update Mrclubike. I'd sorely like to upgrade to tubeless:
--No tube to carry
--Mounting / unmounting easier
--Side-of-the-road repairs don't require unmounting
--Can get a nice long bent valve stem so that the snowflake wheels aren't a problem with normal schrader chucks

I'm running Pilot Activs, and they were indeed a bear to get on. I have a hard time imagining them unseating in the event of a flat.

Maybe Michelin has improved the tires in the last couple years so they're no longer so hard to mount? I vaguely recall seeing a report (or speculation?) of that being the case.

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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2017, 07:30:03 PM »
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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2017, 07:38:40 PM »
I have been using this to get the bead to seal completely
I have had some slow leaking on the front
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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2017, 07:03:19 PM »
Thanks for the update Mrclubike, it's certainly helpful to get all the details. I still haven't gotten around to the switch yet, perhaps this spring...

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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2017, 10:49:33 PM »
Checked around and the only bead sealer I've found locally is by "Slime" at Pep Boys...

My valve stems got here today so maybe next week I'll switch one out it I get bored...
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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2018, 12:02:52 PM »
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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2018, 05:47:03 PM »
Pilot Actives on my bike.  I could not get them on.   It was a very frustrating experience at the local bike shop since i was able to watch the guy put them on an he was struggling mightily with the front tire.   My heart was in my throat since these snowflakes, unlike steel rims, are likely to crack before bending much. 

Finally got them seated and had hell to pay to get the bead true to the rim edge.  Refused to seat with high pressure.  Had to break the bead again and try again and pressure them before things dried.   

Really really wish I'd gone for another tire.   I was very very happy with the Macadams previous to this and these were supposed to be replacements to that product.   The straight line handling of the PA is noticeably worse than the macadam.

I'll be paying close attention to other owners picks, conti, dunlap, etc for this bike in the future. Meanwhile I'll live with these.

I did go tubeless.  Cant remember if I had to bore the hole a little for the new stem.   Do remember that the stem was another very tight fit and I had them pressed in at a shop.
And I quite agree.   I don't expect that front tire is going anywhere when flat. 

These PAs have a much stiffer sidewall than the Macadams.   The first time I had the bike out this spring for a short around the block something felt a bit wallowy.  Checked the rear tire pressure.. less than 5lbs psi!!  The tire was not visibly flat at all under the weight of the bike.

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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2018, 08:01:50 PM »
I am still running Avon AM26's front and rear
I have gotten the tire changing thing down to a routine 
So much easier without the tubes 
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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2018, 08:49:42 PM »
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I have gotten the tire changing thing down to a routine 
So much easier without the tubes 

Amen to that! I fitted a Shinko 100/90 to the K100 front wheel now in my R65 in 15 minutes flat.

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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2018, 10:55:54 PM »
Here is what the inside of my rim looks like
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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2020, 09:31:16 PM »
With all  the talk about tubeless tires I thought I would bump this thread
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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2020, 11:46:13 AM »
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I've had good performance with Avon Roadriders on my 70's BMW's.  Good traction and they don't get stuck in the rhythm of the rain grooved freeways.    I don't see much discussion about using them with the R65.  I recently bought a set for my newly acquired 1980 R65 and they are getting mounted tomorrow.  
I went with a 4.00 rear but it was a rough decision for a 90/90 or 100/90 front. I could not find an 18" front in a 3.25 size.  I went with a 90/90.  


I am running the same tires, with tubes and they are very good.  Need a little wearing out of the slick tire surface at first, a bit of gravel road takes that off.
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Re: Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2020, 06:22:27 PM »
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I am running the same tires, with tubes and they are very good.  Need a little wearing out of the slick tire surface at first, a bit of gravel road takes that off.
My mate come off his bike at a roundabout with new tires because of that tire release agent they are using.