Pannier Rack Mounting Points

[BPT]

I bought a pair online and they are supposed to be for the R65 (and look like some that I have seen that fit).  I know that I might have to do some bending but I wanted to make sure I was in the right spots and then figure out if it's an appropriate amount of bending required.

So are the proper points behind the upper shock mount, the hole near the passenger peg and the tab/ loop on the rear below the seat?

Starting with it on the shock mount bolt, the one leg lines up with the passenger peg hole, but will need some bending or a spacer (saw somewhere else that no spacer should be needed).
The last part is vaguely in the area of that loop but, again, would require some force to get it lined up.  Is there supposed to be a long bolt that goes through the loop and connects both sides?  Seems like that's what I heard but wasn't sure if that was it or if there was another piece.

I haven't tried any of these yet, I was merely eyeballing them to see if I had the right ones. I figured I'd make sure here before I started manhandling things to force them to fit.

Later on - has anybody come up with some clever DIY mounts for ammo box panniers?
I've seen some kits available but don't really want to fork out the money right (needing some more important and necessary things at the moment).

            Thanks

[wilcom]

The rack mounts on the INSIDE of the top shock mount. I have attached 3 pics of my mounting points... hope that helps.

The pic of the behind the seat point is tough to see, There is a tool box over it or I would have taken the pic at a better angle

[BPT]

Thanks Wilco, that makes sense. And, yes, I did start from the inside on the shock mount. The way mine are, there's a good bit of space between the passenger peg area attachment.  And the rear loop spot doesn't really line up either. Could be that the leg section is just really out of whack. I just wanted to make sure I had the right spots before I started forcing things.

So, on the loop under the toolbox, do you just have one long bolt going through?

[wilcom]

do you just have one long bolt going through?
                   

Yes just a long bolt that was, as I remember, a bear to line up. Nothing else was to the point that I would use the word "bending" though.........

[BPT]

Bending might not be needed, but how about serious flexing then?
On mine, I'm sure there not straight and o can see that the tabs might be a little off as well. But if you say the back was a bear to get lined up then that sounds  like I might have the correct ones.
This was just a dry fit and I only held them in the general area. It could be that once I get them actually mounted on the shock bolt, I might get a tiny bit of a better fit. And now I know it will be normal to fight the rear loop connection.
I'll assume the original shock hardware was OK to use as far as length and such?

[jp9094]

From the photos it seems as if you have an r 65 ls. I have been led to believe that the mounts for an Ls and a plain vanilla r 65 are different though similar. Perhaps this is the origin of your difficulties?

Having recently purchased and mounted a pair of bags I believe this may be the origin of your problemsS

FWIW,

[wilcom]

RealOEM.com said the case holders are the same for the entire R65 run  78-85
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[Justin B.]

Bring it by and compare to my wife's '84.

[BPT]

When I bought them, I looked on the Max fiche and also quite a few pics online. These appeared to match but I didn’t know if there were some of similar styles but maybe slightly different measurements.
I literally just held them up to the bike to see if I had the correct ones and if I could tell where the mounting points were.
I need to dig around my spare bolt drawer and then I'll try to put them on "for real".  Their close enough that I think I could have the right ones.

[Tony Smith]

Later on - has anybody come up with some clever DIY mounts for ammo box panniers?
I've seen some kits available but don't really want to fork out the money right (needing some more important and necessary things at the moment).

            Thanks

I'll take photos of my Hepco & Becker expedition box's mounts, they are as agricultural as they come and would be easily replicated.

[Tony Smith]

As promised here are some photos off the pannier mounts on my Hepco & Becker expedition boxes.

They are "industrial" to say the least, I reckon that they could be knocked up out of strap and bar in a couple of hours. I would pass on the mounting clips and simply use industrial (which my bike's PO has already done to the lid latches).

[BPT]

Thanks, Tony. I wouldn't call that industrial at all, that looks pretty fancy actually, especially with those lid latches.  I had a similar idea of using some steel angle pieces but yours has more contact, it appears.

Thanks.

[mrclubike]

Amo can type boxes  will not work on the standard Krauser racks with out spacing them out 2 inches (50mm) to clear the seat

[mrclubike]

Finished view

[BPT]

Interesting MrClubike. So how did you mount them?
The ones I have are quite a bit smaller so I have some leeway  in placement as far as avoiding the seat.