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Offline Tony Smith

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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2016, 06:56:44 PM »
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Is it possible that these 1984 twin shock R65 models were slightly different to other R65s???
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In a word - No.
I have a 1984 r65 and when i recently had the swingarm out i noted no difference as between our older r65 and my R100.
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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2016, 07:42:50 PM »
Okay thanks Tony. I guess it's head down and bum up time. I haven't found anyone local to sell me a couple of M20 x 1.5 bolts. So that's one idea not going to work. So it's gonna be up to the tap.
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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2016, 02:02:36 AM »
Update time - the tap arrived and it worked exactly as expected - gentle persuasion and all the crap came out of the threads. Well worth the $21 Aussie dollars -)
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Offline Tony Smith

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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2016, 02:04:34 PM »
I underestimated the influx of Chinese tooling. I see that even on fleabay a 21x1.5 tap allegedly made of high speed steel they can be had for around what you paid.

I had a price of around $60 fixed in my head - that being what I paid for a quality 17mm tap several years ago.

At $20 that tap was a better bet than mucking about with bolts, but I would not ever try using it to cut a real thread, trying to pick broken carbon steel our of holes is not fun.


May I ask if the manufacturer was sufficiently proud of their product to put a name and material composition on it? I've just spent 5 minutes on eBay looking at a fake P&N M20 tap for sale brand new from China for $AU8.
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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2016, 02:15:13 PM »
Is it 21 or 18 mm dia ?
IRC it was 18 mm pitch 1.5, no ?

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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2016, 12:59:54 AM »
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May I ask if the manufacturer was sufficiently proud of their product to put a name and material composition on it? I've just spent 5 minutes on eBay looking at a fake P&N M20 tap for sale brand new from China for $AU8.

Hi Tony - I bought the tool from Total Tools here in Elizabeth. The product is made by Sutton Tools in Victoria. It's made from Tungsten Chrome Alloy. The size is MF20 x 1,5 and its the Intermediate Tap. I chose the inter as I already had about 2/3 of the thread clear and working okay.  It's a perfect fit and with gentle pressure and turning and releasing - it cut thru all the crap and old paint/powder coat okay.
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I think its a well made product and I'll be buying a few more different sizes to clear out the few threads that are on the frame.
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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2016, 01:01:53 AM »
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Is it 21 or 18 mm dia ?
IRC it was 18 mm pitch 1.5, no ?

Hi George - the size is MF20 x 1.5. My response to Tony above tells the story of it's quality :-)
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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2016, 02:09:41 AM »
Onwards and upwards Adrian!

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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2016, 03:43:12 AM »
Yep Chris - spraying the front mudguard and seat tray at the moment - and spending too much money with Motorworks in the UK lol lol lol
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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2016, 04:53:39 PM »
I just though of another area you may want to clean up after having the frame powdercoated .

The main grounding or earthing point for most of the circuits, is one of the mounting screws that secure the voltage regulator to the frame, make sure the threads are free of powdercoat .

I never liked this arrangement for a major ground, I added a heavy gauge wire from this point, back to the negative terminal on the battery, just a thought .
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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2016, 12:01:19 AM »
Thanks Bob - I know the screw hole you mean - and I like the idea of taken  a wire to the battery to guarantee a proper earth. Thanks for the advice :-)
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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2016, 12:32:08 AM »
If I can throw in two-bobs worth as well - I'd use a direct to battery in addition to a carefully cleaned standard earthing arrangements.
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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2016, 02:26:43 AM »
Yep my thoughts exactly Tony :-)
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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2016, 12:24:58 PM »
I hear you re spending money with Motorworks...[ch128543] I think I may almost own the company at the current spend rate!

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Re: Refitting Swing Arm
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2016, 03:15:44 AM »
Me too Chris - so far I've spent over $2000 Aussie with maybe a few hundred more to go. Plus having the engine stripped and overhauled by a local dealership. But it's worth the effort of course. This bike will see me out for another 10 or 15 years I reckon :-)
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