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Author Topic: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads  (Read 1580 times)

Offline montmil

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Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« on: January 11, 2014, 11:39:48 AM »
The following relates to a bit of discovery and service work regarding my 1978 R100S but is relevant to all our favorite Airheads...

The R100S came with a rather anemic, single horn. The horn pulled minimum power and was barely a step above just yelling at the "blue hair" in your lane. No horn relay was fitted as was done on the twin horn R100RT and others.

I have a pair of aftermarket horns ready for install on the R100S. Same pair, plus a relay harness, fitted to my R65s and they are very, very loud. With the relay and wiring materials in hand, I figured the R100S would be honkin' in an hour or two.

At least I assumed so but ya'll know the old saying about assumptions.

My first surprise was when I opened the headlight shell to trace the usual brown/white-tracer wire that supplies power to the OEM horn. A snake's nest inside the shell but what really caught my immediate attention was a nasty red wire that originates at the starter relay and feeds the ignition switch and headlight relay.



Here's the harness after removal. Cracked sheathing exposing bare wire carrying 12V positive. Couple of spots that appeared to be melted from possible contact with that often troublesome over-heated yellow headlight wire. You can also see the way BMW spliced three wires into one wire. Some sort of pressure/stamping/forging that formed all the wires into a single copper "block". Interesting, that.

I have a few Airhead wiring harnesses squirreled away and was pleased to find a good replacement for this very questionable harness.



The terminal that was plugged into the starter relay and feeds the headlight relay. Corroded terminal connector and only 4-5 strands remain attached with the balance of the wire being broken away. Amazing that the headlight worked at all.



This is what the bottom of the relay connector block looked like when first removed. I relaced this terminal connector block with a fresher one. The larger, red, 2.5mm wire runs from the battery's positive terminal directly to the starter relay. This wire also received a new connection.



Another look at the 1.0mm red wire that feeds the headlight relay from the starter relay. Ugh. Note the use of new, double-crimped terminals such as used on most of the OEM connections. Soldering a connection that is not firmly anchored to prevent flex could result in a fracture or break.



Still another paired wire (blacks) to rehab but almost ready to replace the starter relay and connector block.



After a very busy half-day in the shop, and with everything back in place it was time for the happy dance as Ol' Beck fired right up.

Still need to get that horn relay wiring harness built and installed...  ::)










Monte Miller
Denton, TEXAS
1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2014, 04:47:08 PM »
Curious as to what type of crimping tool you have. I've used those flat stamped ones you see everywhere with the built in wire strippers and they just don't seem like the best thing to use. I did invest in a Knipex crimper which works better but I'm still looking for a good tool that doesn't cost a fortune.
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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2014, 06:53:13 PM »
I've been dreading going into the headlight shell on my 1978 /7 for similar reasons, but I think this winter will be the one...
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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 07:11:50 PM »
Nice work, Monte!

Offline montmil

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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2014, 09:34:23 PM »
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Curious as to what type of crimping tool you have. <snip>

Getting good results using this Open Barrel terminal tool. I also buy the terminals from this small operation in northern Arkansas.  

http://www.qualitycycleparts.com/Economy_Open_Barrel_terminal_crimpers_p/tr15-1303.htm

Monte Miller
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1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 10:06:05 PM »
Hello !
In order to ease the spaghetti arrangement in the headlight bucket, a friend of mine painted white the inside of the bucket. Tremendous help to see the wires colour and placement. Simple but neat ;-)

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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2014, 12:44:50 AM »
Yeah - if I got another airhead, it would either be another R65 or a later model mono-shock - simply because of that headlight.

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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #7 on: January 12, 2014, 09:16:06 AM »
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... Simple but neat

Simple? Only if you start with an empty bucket. ::)
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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #8 on: January 12, 2014, 11:22:48 AM »
MrRiden /Rich , here's a cost effective terminal end crimper from Harbor Freight .

It's a ratcheting type, like I use at work, does a great job compared to the stamped sheetmetal crimpers .

http://www.harborfreight.com/ratcheting-crimping-tool-97420.html

I got one a few weeks ago, with their usual 25% off coupon for one item, it can be yours for around $8 . ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2014, 10:28:37 AM »
Bob, does your HF ratcheting crimper handle the open-barrel terminals?

And BTW, I finally completed the dual horn and horn relay harness project on the R100S. Loud, we are.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2014, 10:31:11 AM by montmil »
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1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2014, 11:27:07 AM »
I havn't tried it on ' butt ' splices, only terminal ends .
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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2014, 11:33:14 AM »
I have the same ratcheting crimper Bob showed.  I only use it on insulated terminals, I don't know how it would work on non-insulated ones.  For bigger guages, maybe.  I have a much better quality one that I have set up for crimping the Lucas bullet terminals, that go into those tubes.  I would like to just find a bunch more dies for it, for different types of terminals.  
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Re: Wiring Issues with the Classic Airheads
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2014, 12:23:04 PM »
Hello !
I've a similar ratcheting crimping tool I bought here http://www.vehicleproducts.co.uk which I use only on non insulated terminals. IRC it is the PR4 model.
For the "standard" insulated terminal I use a very old Facom French made tool. It looks like a wise grip and does a very good job.
The British bought tool is very good but not suited for flag terminals.
It seems they are all the same type and make; Only the dies are different. So IMHO buy the cheapest one you can find and adapt the correct dies for the job at hand...
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