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GrimReaper

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carb help
« on: November 08, 2012, 11:00:12 PM »
 Today i noticed that my right carbs choke was stuck.So i removed the carb,took the choke out,cleaned it,put it back(in right position)and installed the carb(i did not took the cables out,just twisted the carb.Now the bike runs different,especially on decelerating.It feels like i am running out of gas.
  What can be the reason for that?
  Tnx

Session101

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Re: carb help
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 12:47:14 AM »
the choke might be upside down, example of turning it  180 degrees before putting the lever clip on, try that and see if it works, if not then you will have to pull the choke again

GrimReaper

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Re: carb help
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 01:00:23 AM »
Session,the choke is installed right.The bike starts,idle and accelerate good.The problem is mainly in decelerating.and the bike sounds more noisy.

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Re: carb help
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 02:11:00 AM »
like bubbling?

Offline Barry

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Re: carb help
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 03:56:39 AM »
Could the choke gasket or O ring be leaking air into the carb. Or could the carb to head rubber be leaking air in after being disturbed ?
« Last Edit: November 09, 2012, 03:59:23 AM by bhodgson »
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Re: carb help
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 08:40:10 AM »
All good suggestions for you, Sin. Check / confirm each one.

If carb removal and the enrichener hardware is the only thing you messed with, the problem is there. Resist the idea to make any other tweaks on the carbs/engine until you get this one issue resolved.

There is also a dot on the shaft of the enrichener valve which must point toward the lever that is installed on the shaft.

Luck to ya ;)

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Re: carb help
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 09:00:40 AM »
Did you disassemble the choke assembly, or just spray it with carb cleaner to clean it out ?
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GrimReaper

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Re: carb help
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 10:00:45 AM »
Bob,I disassembled it.It should be a gasket,I think.is it too bad to ride the bike in this condition,since there is probably a more lean condition on this side than the other

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Re: carb help
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 10:22:02 AM »
Just a note for the next time you clean the choke disc assembly, you don't need to disassemble it, unless you are replacing the o-ring on the shaft .

The thin brass plate on the back side of the disc, is spring loaded, you can get it about an eighth on an inch from the aluminum part and make sure the holes in the aluminum disc are open .

Did you make any note or take any pictures of the position of the brass shaft that the two part arm assembly is secured to, as Monte has mentioned, there is a dot from a center punch on the end of the shaft it needs to be in the correct position .

If you can get to the carb, where is the dot located when the choke is off ?

If the gasket doesn't help the situation, you may need to disassemble the choke assembly and rotate it 180 degrees and reassemble it .

I just rebuilt both carbs on my '82 LS last week and I took a few pictures before disassembling the chokes, I deleted them two days ago !!!!!
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Re: carb help
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2012, 10:47:14 AM »
We have choke orientation pictures in the FAQ section.

http://www.bmwr65.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1291933920
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Re: carb help
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2012, 11:06:54 AM »
Great link Barry, didn't remember it was there .

One thing that is mentioned in the Bing manual, is to use an anti-seize compound on all of the screws that thread into the aluminum carb body .

They will be easier to get out next time .

Just a note here for US members, the screws that hold the tops of the carbs on, the metric thread (not sure what the dimensions are) and the US fastener size 10-32 (.188 in. x 32 threads per in.) are the same size .
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GrimReaper

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Re: carb help
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2012, 01:10:02 PM »
I was following the link when I put it back together.I will put new gasket and o-ring next week

tvrla

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Re: carb help
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2012, 10:35:31 PM »
Any idea how long the choke was sticking open?

Is it possible the last time the carbs were tuned, it was done over that rich condition?

GrimReaper

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Re: carb help
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2012, 11:17:36 PM »
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Any idea how long the choke was sticking open?

Is it possible the last time the carbs were tuned, it was done over that rich condition?

  I went on vacation for a month in September.Before that the bike ran flawless.During the vacation there has been very heavy rain in vegas a few times.When i came back i found a sticking choke and a water in the tranny >:(

  Is there any way to check for a air leak with spraying something around the carb
« Last Edit: November 12, 2012, 11:19:47 PM by GrimReaper »

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Re: carb help
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2012, 04:08:52 AM »
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Is there any way to check for a air leak with spraying something around the carb  


Spray any highly volatile flammable solvent around the carb inlet joints. If the revs rise momentarily that indicates an air leak.

Worth also spraying around the enricher to check if the either the cover gasket or spindle O ring are leaking air.
« Last Edit: November 13, 2012, 02:09:34 PM by bhodgson »
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