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Author Topic: Driving Lights on R65LS?  (Read 1479 times)

Red_Hen

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Driving Lights on R65LS?
« on: September 23, 2011, 08:13:41 AM »
Hi Gang,

I read Bob's post about having driving lights on one of his bikes.

Has anyone added driving lights to an RS?  If so, I'd like to see pics.

From what I've heard, the LED's draw the least amount of juice.
I have driving lights on my K75s and really like the added "protection" of being seen while running down the road.

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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 08:24:33 AM »
Here at work (Southwest Airlines), they have started installing LED headlights on the ground equipment .

They are about 3 inches (75mm) in diameter have six one inch (25mm) LED's .

The ground equipment mechanics say they get them from NAPA (No Auto Parts Available) .
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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 08:18:24 PM »
Suecanada has dual driving lights mounted on her crash bars, plus other electrical doo-days, heater grips, etc.   But, she also has installed the upgraded Omega (or was it the Enduralast) charging system (~450W)
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Red_Hen

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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2011, 06:29:43 AM »
I had some custom mounts made for my K75 that attach to the Brembo's calipers - has worked out well.

The trick will be finding LED's that don't suck much juice!  


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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2011, 07:48:38 AM »
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The trick will be finding LED's that don't suck much juice!

Although those PIAAs will suck up lottsa money! [smiley=thumbup.gif]

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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2011, 08:26:23 AM »
LEds are the light of the future, and work wery well in many applications, such as traffic signals, where they are nice and bright and use only a third of the power, but, high output in a "bulb" of the size of a halogen or HID is not yet possible, thus making reflector and lens design different and the whole system much larger.  LEDs don't take much power, but they are not 100% efficient either so what doesn't get turned into light creates  as heat  and must be carried away by some sort of "heat sink".  Glass, quartz, and tungsten can run at very high temps, the materials in an LED cannot, which limits the the amount of light which can be obtained from a unit the size of, say, an H3 55 watt halogen, a very common bulb in fog and driving lights to probably 20 watts.   In two to five cell flashlight applications (3 to 7.5 volts) there are  LEDs which will equal or exceed the output of standard filament bulbs, and can be  very bright, but beyond that the heat sink requirements cause the size of the LED and sink  to increase to the point where it won't be a drop in replacement or use the same reflector design.  
LEDs are single color (unlike a filament) and the most efficient color is BLUE right now.  To make  a white you need the three primary colors in one unit, (big)  or to take advantage of the blue LED higher output per watt  a coating is applied to the blue LED lens which reradiates white light- though some of the blue leaks through and gives that neon effect.  
The best small, high output units today come from a company called "Cree"  which makes some pretty good looking white elements
as well as  single color units which can and do make good turn signals for cars and bikes with low power consumption and standard sizes and sockets.  

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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2011, 09:04:55 AM »
Cree now has available some driving lights for our motorcycles. I put a pair on the bonneville and they can be sourced from Whitehorse Gear in Conway NH. As a light to provide the 3 light safety triangle so oft touted as what is a safety advantage for us out riding, the Crees do a great job. I haven't tried them at night but I don't suppose they would ever match a PIAA H3 but would add some extra illumination.
http://www.WhitehorseGear.com   under lighting options I presume. They are much cheaper than either the Clearwaters or Denalis.
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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2011, 05:58:41 AM »
Hi Ken, When you say 'driving lights' are you refering to hi output, long range lights or do you mean day driving lamps as in just extra lights to help you be seen, not to see by?

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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2011, 07:17:47 AM »
Hi Bruce,

Would like driving lights to be used during the day - as Sue says to make a safety triangle.  I do have Japanese lights I bought on Ebay that work very well.

Honestly, I never thought I'd be riding my R65LS as much as I am - its like flying a WW II AT6 Texan- love the roar of the engine and feel of how the bike rides - quite addicting!

What I'd like to avoid is having to beef up charging kit and find something that will look and work well w/out draining down the battery.

I'm gonna check out SueCanada's link above.  Being seen is so important in today's world of people in cages talking, texting, GPSing, IPoding; putting on makeup or shaving - just not paying attention.

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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2011, 08:35:56 AM »
In that case LED's would be the go, I saw a listing for a kit of black alloy 2" driving lights that would be ideal and they seemed that they would also throw a lot of usable extra light at night.

I used to run a 55 watt Bosch halogen driving light bracketed off the engine crash bar. It just gave me an extra spread of light that was very good at night.
I ran a standard alternator and of course wired it through a 30 amp fuse and relay with an isolation switch in the black plastic panel in the back of the LS nose cone. I never had a problem with it not charging enough and I used to do a lot of night riding.

PS I had a SL125 that I restored and rode briefly before selling it to my brother back in the late 70's.

EGRG

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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2011, 03:18:00 PM »
Where would you recommend installing the Cree lights on a 82 R65LS?

wa1udg

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Re: Driving Lights on R65LS?
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2011, 08:54:20 PM »
PIAA stuff seems to be of acceptable quality but unless I am missing something the prices are very high.  I'd check out "Dan Stern Lighting"
in the internet by using google.  He is not inexpensive either but his products are all famous brand name European gear, plus he has a lot of good info about what is and is not worth using.