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Offline Bob_Roller

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Center Stand
« on: August 28, 2010, 10:17:04 AM »
I had the front tire replaced on the '81 R65 on Thursday, on installation of the wheel assembly, I noticed the center stand is cracked on the left tube, around the weld for the tube that goes between the two leg tubes of the center stand .

Now I've hated this center stand since I got the bike going on 30 years now .

Does anyone know if the '82 model year and later center stands are compatible with an '81 bike ?

This center stand has been repaired four or five times already, if I have to, I'll repair it again, but I am at the point of replacing it .
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

Offline montmil

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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2010, 01:20:36 PM »
Bob, I recently replaced the bastid gawl danged piece of shite centerstand on my '81 with an eBay-scored stand from a 1983 R65.

"New" stand has the dandy foot pad and is oh so pleasant to use. Fits as if it were designed by a real BMW engineer. Not the faux engineer that fabbed the '81 model stands.

If the '82 stand has the foot pad, you're golden.

Monte
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Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2010, 01:25:42 PM »
Know if they'll fit on a '79?

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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2010, 01:38:26 PM »
From the pictures in RealOEM, it shows the same center stand for all of the R65's, the LS version as well, so from that, I can't tell for sure .

I checked Motobins, they have a center stand for '82 and up R65's, looks like the one I have on my '81 .

Motobins part number : 91506 .
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2010, 05:35:05 PM »
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Know if they'll fit on a '79?

Unless the chassis is different from the 81's and up -and I don't believe they are- it ought to fit.

Should you decide to take the plunge, Rob, I'll try to take some measurements for you if you think it might be helpful. I also have a 1983 R65. It has the same chassis dimensions as my 81. Of course, that's not too helpful for you right now...

Monte
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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2010, 11:41:02 PM »
Last summer I put a later-model stand on my '81, and I love it. (BTW, I was under the impression that BMW changed the center stand design for the '83 and later models, not the '82. Am I mistaken?)

The only installation hassle I had was the return springs — the later-model stand requires springs that are about 1 cm shorter than those for the '81 and earlier. The parts dept at Bob's could not find a reliable part # for the springs you'll need, so it's something of a poke-and-hope proposition. Somewhere in all these center stand message threads is a message I posted within the past year or so, listing the lengths of each spring. My brain's mush tonight, and I can't find it, unfortunately.

Replace the old center stand. You won't regret it. JT

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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2010, 07:50:03 PM »
The center stand broke this morning when I took the bike off of it going to work .

Couldn't get the remains of the stand retracted, finally it complied with my wishes, only problem, without the left part of the stand, the center stand retracted too far and contacted the clutch arm at the back end of the transmission .

Looked on eBay this morning, found a center stand from an '83 R65 .

Should be here Friday of next week .

I'm glad that piece of crap center stand is finally gone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Last Edit: September 04, 2010, 07:51:02 PM by Bob_Roller »
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

Offline montmil

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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2010, 09:02:28 PM »
Bob, after fitting the '83 mod centerstand, you'll wonder why you didn't replace the hernia inducing '81 model stand long before now. I r-e-a-l-l-y like it.

Monte
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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2010, 01:49:11 AM »
Bob

Any chance you will be able to measure the differences between these stands ?

My 79 goes much too far over centre so I've just taken it off for welding of the end stops to see if I can correct the angle to something more vertical.
Barry Cheshire, England 79 R45

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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2010, 11:42:37 AM »
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Bob, after fitting the '83 mod centerstand, you'll wonder why you didn't replace the hernia inducing '81 model stand long before now. I r-e-a-l-l-y like it.

Monte

You guys need to work out more.  Or give me a later stand for free, as I'm not buying one until mine breaks.

Ed Miller
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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2010, 01:32:07 PM »
Any chance of a photo comparing them so we can see the difference.
Lou
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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2010, 03:55:42 PM »
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Bob, after fitting the '83 mod centerstand, you'll wonder why you didn't replace the hernia inducing '81 model stand long before now. I r-e-a-l-l-y like it.

Monte

You guys need to work out more.  Or give me a later stand for free, as I'm not buying one until mine breaks.


Ed, I really was suffering with the old stand... in spite of being on a regular running and exercise program. Only way I can enjoy my adult beverages and maintain 153 pounds for the last fifteen years.

When I recently installed new, stock length 13-inch Hagon shocks, I discovered the too stiff Progressive shocks were actually 12.25 inch length! So I was doing an almost dead lift of 450+ pounds just to get the scooter stand over TDC. That effort became part of my Phys Ed routine. ;D

Monte I'll take easy anytime Miller
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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2010, 05:40:28 AM »
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Only way I can enjoy my adult beverages and maintain 153 pounds for the last fifteen years.

Living in a metric world an wondering how heavy 153 pounds was I tried entering my own weight and came up with 297.3pounds.
 Thats nearly double.

Does that make me twice the person ? :)

Hmmm time to start doing something about that methinks

John

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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 10:19:43 PM »
153 pounds isn't heavy, unless my cousin is only about 4 feet tall.  It's 454g/lb, so he's a bit over 69 kg.  I'm 175 pounds if I lift weights and eat enough protein.  ...and consume adult beverages....  

Ed Miller
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Re: Center Stand
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2010, 07:03:34 PM »
Yes Bob, pictures would be great.  Mine has not broken yet but probably just a matter of time.  Most importantly, I am wondering if the 81 version can be modified to operate like the 83 model.  There's nothing like a preemptive strike.  I have a welder and I am not afraid to use it!
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