no turn signals

[Patrick_Krivacka]

thanks- I'll give it a try and get back to you.

[montmil]

You can clean the old-style Euro ceramic fuses, test 'em, buff up the fuse holder terminals and the little bastids still won't let the flashers work.

I suggest you dump them for more modern blade fuses. here's how I did it on my '81 R65.

This info is right here in the R65 dot org wiki.

http://www.suraklyn.com/r65_wiki/wikka.php?wakka=BladeFuse

Monte

[msbuck]

You can clean the old-style Euro ceramic fuses, test 'em, buff up the fuse holder terminals and the little bastids still won't let the flashers work.
 

That's funny...mine have always worked and I still have them "#*&@*&" ceramic fuses in mine.   Only ever had a problem when they blew - which I think has happened once... so YMMV.  

[Patrick_Krivacka]

I bought all of the parts to do the conversion to the blade type fuses tonight on my way home from work. Unfortunately, I feel pretty ruff, a cold coming on I think, so I'll skip doing the work tonight. But thats the plan at this point. I'll post up the results. thanks for everyones feed back.

[Rob Valdez 79 R65]

I thought that was a real dis-service that BMW did on the 2nd generation models, putting the fuses under the fuel tank.

If I had a '81-'84 and I was replacing my fuse holders, I would consider relocating them, as well.

[Patrick_Krivacka]

i switched over to the blade fuses. No joy. those two fuses are the only one's, right? what now?

[k_enn]

If the fuses are good (you should be able to visually determine if they are blown), take a look at the turn signal relay.  The first suspect at the relay would that the contacts may have oxidized over the years.  I just had this happen on my starter relay.

Take the relay out, and use a small wire brush or a emory paper to clean the male contacts.  You can clean the female connectors with emory paper, but be care not to bend them apart to the point where they will loose contract with the male end of the connector.

If you need check out the relay further, I suspect that others here can advise you better than I can how to check it out.  You would need some very basic knowledge of electrical matters and how to use a multi meter to obtain some basic testing results.

k_enn

[Patrick_Krivacka]

what does the relay look like?

[Bob_Roller]

It looks similar to the starter relay .

With the tank off, when you turn the key to the 'ON' position, a smaller metal case relay should click, there's another taller plastic case relay, with a wiring diagram on it, push the start button, and that one should click .

I believe the remaining relay should be the turn directional relay .

[Patrick_Krivacka]

i guess it couldn't hurt to clean them all. they're just male/female blade connections, correct? It might be tomorrow before I get to it, this cold has got me down.

[Rob Valdez 79 R65]

I forget what year your bike is, i-man (put it in your signature).
Sure it is a conglomeration, but the year of the frame/engine is what is most important.


'78-'80 relays:



The right side box under the side cover housed the turn signal relay (and the fuses):


_{click on these two for larger}


And this is the '81-'84 models:

[Patrick_Krivacka]

Rob, thanks for taking the time to lay all of that out. I've got a '77, '79, '80, '81.....but seriously, all of that is completely different then mine. Mine looks nothing like that. I think that's why I'm so unsure if I have the right fuses. My fuses are (were) screwed to the rear fender. i think the relay is too. freakin' frankenbeemer. I'll take some pictures for everyones amusement when my fever breaks. I feel like I've been run over by a bus.

[nhmaf]

I guess we'll have to wait to see what pics of your Frankenbeemer turn up, I-man - it certainly sounds like it was, er, 'heavily customized'.

Do you have that Johnny Cash record of the '57 Chevy?  It's a classic!

[Patrick_Krivacka]

I've been writing my own words to that song for my '77, '79, '80, '81.....Bmw!

[Darwin_R65]

with my bike, the hazard switch died which meant no indicators. Temporarily fixed with wire shorting out the relevant twerminals.


Do all lights work, stop and tail ligths, horn? instrument lights.

It's odd for a switch to fail in both directions, but not impossible.

If you have a multi meter with ohms and a wiring diagram, you can disconnect the plugs under the tank and check the switch out, quite simple.

Also switch to volts and look for volts on these plugs.

John