Bike wont crank what the hell

[chewy4x4]

Starter was sent back to euromotoelectrics and they tested it and said it was fine its on its way back to me now. I need to take the batery in and get it tested now. I need mor suggestions about what to check. Is there a relay between the starter and the battery that could be bad? Could a short be causing this. Is it possible to not install the started right?

[Bob_Roller]

There's a starter relay under the fuel tank, normally it's got a yellow plastic cover .

With the tank removed, depress the start button with the key in the on position .

Does it click ?

If not, you can sometimes push on the top of the relay, and get the contacts inside to make contact, and the starter should rotate .

[chewy4x4]

Sorry Bob I missed that one some how I will try tomorrow.

[chewy4x4]

What if I have no yellow covers can I get a pic please

[Bob_Roller]

I just looked at the LS, (it's got the tank off) .

On the right side of the 'backbone' tube, there's a large sheet metal bracket with two relays secured with screws at forward end of the bracket .

One of the relays should have a plastic case (the LS has a grey case) with a wiring schematic molded into the plastic case, and the other relay is a little shorter, and has a metal cover, it's the lighting relay, it's what shuts off the headlight when you use the starter .

The plastic case relay with the schematic, is the starter relay .

[bruce_launceston]

On my 84 model the starter relay is the grey one next to the frame tube and behind the green flasher unit.
(The other extra relays are for my home made heavy duty headlight circuits.)
The fuse box is the Narva 4 blade fuse one that was discussed in an earlier thread.

The starter relay is a standard 30amp type that you will find on a lot of cars, you might be able to borrow one from a headlight or horn circuit to see if it's the problem.

Bruce

[bruce_launceston]

Hey Bob, what time is it in Arizona, it's 11am Sunday in Tasmania?

With your excellent desciption and my photo Chewy shouldn't have any trouble finding his relay.

What a team!

[Bob_Roller]

Currently, it's 1745 on Saturday .

I'm -7 hours GMT, we don't recognize any daylight savings time here in Arizona, except if you reside on some of the Native American (Indian) reservations in northeastern Arizona .

So, how's Sunday so far

[bruce_launceston]

Going to be a hot one 30C, don't let anyone tell you that Tassie is the cold wet end of Australia.
We will be having a quiet one, my wife is struggling with a Uni assignment and my youngest son is flying up to Sydney this afternoon to start a new contract.

[chewy4x4]

Found it you guys rock. I need to go and see if autozone/checker/(insert favorite auto parts shop) has a similar one. I hope that does it. I am starting to lose my mind.

[chewy4x4]

Oh and bruce small worl my wife has only been in the US for 3 years now she is a native queenslander you was living in Nelsons bay NSW when we met.

[Bob_Roller]

Chewy,

If you haven't run off yet, you can take the cover off of the relay, if it doesn't 'click' when the start button is depressed .

If the 'holding' coil of the relay is still good, you can 'adjust' the moving parts inside, if you are a bit gentle with them .

[chewy4x4]

Adjusted It still wont crank. I should have my new starter back tomorrow. I need to take the battery and have it tested. Its new if its bad Ill be angry.

[Rob Valdez 79 R65]

I don't even know what year bike we are talking about.  

The starter relay is the one with a red wire that is larger than the rest.

On the '78-'80, it is the metal cased one next to the large voltage regulator.
Ignore the one to the far left - that is for the 4-way flashers.





If it is on a '81-'84, it is the rear-most relay, at least according to this picture someone here provided a long time ago.



Put your bike model/year in your signature line so we don't have to wonder.  Mine is in my user name.

[chewy4x4]

Oh man I know better than to start a thread without specific details. Sorry. I have a 1981 R65 with less than 5500 original miles on it. I had been using it as a commuter twice a week since August. I parked it on Dec 15 and didn't try to start it until Jan 11. I had the fuel off and no trickle charge on it. I bought a bunch of suspension parts and a new starter to put in before going back to school. I couldn't get it to start even while jumping it. With both the old and the new batteries. I decided to change the starter because I could almost never start it if it was below 45 without a jump and after a weekend it took a lot of cranking to start it. I have a new battery in it(not a gel) and I have checked everything we have mentioned thus far. Save the battery which I am going to do tonight ( I hope).