Bike wont crank what the hell

[chewy4x4]

Ok the bike has been sitting since the 15th of december but it has a new battery and I had just changed the starter because it was a hard start in dec. I got every thing changed and put back together and she wont crank that is to say it wont spin the fly wheel at all so I pull the new starter thinking doa and I put back the old one same crap. So now I need help please help this is my DD for school and I am with out tomorrow.

[Bengt_Phorqs]

Perhaps one of the more electrically savvy gurus could weigh in here, but isn't there a fuse in line somewhere in the starting circuit?  I would check fuses first and if OK, then run a continuity check with a volt/ohm meter.

[Semper Gumby]

Check the voltage at the battery.

Check the fusees (under the RH Side cover).

Look for something easy (disconnected) or pinched (under the top motor cover).

Are you getting indicator lights when you turn the ignition switch on?  Check that the Ignition cutoff switch is on on the RH handle bar is on.

Check your wire connections.  Start at the battery and go to the starter. Make sure your grounds are connected.    OK you've got power to the starter solenoid.  Jump the post on the starter solenoid and see if the starter will turns.  Starter turns: trouble shoot the starter switch and make sure it is connected to the solenoid.  Starter doesn't turn: pull the starter.  

When you disconnect stuff - look for corrosion.  If you see white or green stuff on your connectors or the connectors are discolored then sand the connector shinny and put back together with di-electric grease.

Good luck.  Its there somewheres - you just gotta be persistent and find it.

[Bob_Roller]

There's a starter relay under the fuel tank, normally it's got a yellow plastic cover .

With the tank removed, depress the start button with the key in the on position .

Does it click ?

If not, you can sometimes push on the top of the relay, and get the contacts inside to make contact, and the starter should rotate .

[chewy4x4]

Crap I think that both my starters are dead time to take them and bench test them. I have lights and everything. This bike has been garaged its whole life and there is no corrosion whatsoever on this bike. It looks new inside and out. Not even much dust under the bean can or starter cover. When I hit the start button the starter throw out engages but doesnt spin even when being jumped. Is there any reason or way to test that my flywheel is able to turn. I was riding this bike twice a week to and from Texas State about 100 miles a week. I parked it and whent on Vacation on the 15th of Dec and tried to start it for the first time yesterday. I had changed to the newer valeo starter and squat then bact to the bosch hit the botton click no crank.

[Bob_Roller]

How old is your battery ?

Is it a serviceable type ?

If it is, remove the caps on cells, and see if there is any liquid visible .

[chewy4x4]

New battery done in Dec when the old one died and its clear so I can see in it its full

[Bob_Roller]

Did you leave the fuel tap in the "ON" position ?

If you did, there's a chance the floats in one of the carbs didn't shut off, and you now have the possibility of 'hydraulic lock' in one of the cylinders .

Pull the plugs and see if a cylinder has fuel in it .

[chewy4x4]

Will check changed both spark plugs yesterday didnt notice anything or smell fuel. Is there away to remote mount a silinoid to the bosch starter? Maybe like off an old ford for the time being?

[Rob Valdez 79 R65]

Is there any reason or way to test that my flywheel is able to turn.  

Remove the front engine cover (DISCONNECT THE BATTERY GROUND!).

Remove the spark plugs.

Put a allen key (I prefer my ratchet handle/allen socket) in the alternator rotor screw.

Turn the engine clockwise, looking at the engine from the front!
(I've heard it is not a good idea to turn our engines "backwards")

[chewy4x4]

Ok turned the engine as suggested no issues. Mated a remote starter selenoid to the r65 and wired it to the old bosch starter that is in and Click just one loud click while the bike was in the process of being jumped is it possible to mount the starter and not have the cogs mesh?

[Bob_Roller]

I think you need to remove the starter from the bike, put it in a large vise with a few pieces of wood, and then use jumper cables, and see what it does .

Need to figure out whether it's a starter problem or not .

What was your original 'hard starting' problem?

[chewy4x4]

The original problem was that the starter would click like is is doing now but if i rolled back and kept trying tho start it would eventually crank I can pull the starter and test it this week end. Apperently Honda thinks the problem in the new starter is the starter itsself not the selenoid. I am starting tho think so also

[Bengt_Phorqs]

Chewy, did you ever get the starter to work?

[Semper Gumby]

If you need to rebuild it try these guys.

They rebuilt my Bosch starter many years ago for not much money.  It is still working.

http://www.sleepyhollowrebuilders.com/

Good luck