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Author Topic: Low handlerbars  (Read 3801 times)

GrimReaper

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Low handlerbars
« on: November 16, 2009, 02:29:10 PM »
 I looking for a low handle bars for a 87 R65 mono.Lowest possible :)(drag bars or clubmam or at least low euro)The ones sell by Caferace.com are 7/8 inches and as far as i know BMW OEM are 22mm wich makes slightly difference.Is it so hard to fit the controls to the 7/8 and is it a place i can buy 22mm low ones
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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2009, 06:01:17 PM »
If my conversion math is correct, 22 mm is 0.866 inch. 7/8's inch is 0.875 inch. The 7/8 inch bars are only 0.009 inch larger than the 22 mm.

Some peeps say the difference in bar diameter can/will crack the BMW perch mounts. Some peeps also believe in global warming. ;)

Borrow a 7/8's bar from someone and see if you can safely secure the BMW bits without a concern.

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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2009, 06:27:57 PM »
I can tell you from first hand experience that 7/8 and 22mm are not the same. Yes I know its only .2 mm difference but a new throttle perch later I know it will crack the perch casting. Not all 7/8 bars are the same size given the +/- of manufacturing, the thickness of the plating, paint, powder coating, etc. but all of them are larger than the opening in the perch. I spent hours with a grinder and belt sander trying to get the chrome off of a set of drag bars just to remove the .2mm and in the end I didn't like the way they looked. Try and find a set of clip-on bars and then you have the luxury of placing them as high or low on the fork tube as you want. I ended up with a set of Tomasselli 4-way adjustable clip-ons and they are perfect but not cheap.
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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2009, 06:31:10 PM »
Here is a source for the Tomasselli bars.

www.guzzino.com/toadcl.html
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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 06:32:23 PM »
I'll confirm what marcmax said.  I tried the 7/8" bars and there is no joy in Mudville.  Try Boxers By Bruce. http://www.boxerbruce.com/ He has a shop full of NOS and aftermarket bars.  If he doesn't have what you need I'll be surprised.
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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2009, 06:39:53 PM »
Something else you need to consider if going to clubman bars is the distance between the drop points from the center. The first set I tried to mount would not clear the sides of the top triple tree clamp. They could only be mounted with the corners in front of the triple tree with the bars angled down or behind the triple tree with the bars angled slightly up. Neither one was an ideal position for me. They come in about 5-6 widths that I have seen.
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Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2009, 08:14:43 PM »
Regarding bar diameter:

I bought a set of replacement 'S' bars from Matt at Boxerworks.  They were not OEM, but were advertised as 22mm.

The throttle perch slid on just fine.

The clutch perch would not go on at all.

First I started with course sand paper.  I eventually switched to my angle-grinder.

It took a long time, because I didn't want to take off too much metal.  
Pain in the butt is what it was.  If I hadn't already drilled holes for my heated handgrips, I might have considered exchanging them.  (Matt had OEM in stock for about $50 more...).


Some people bore out the inside of the perch.

GrimReaper

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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2009, 12:37:04 AM »
Thank you guys i can put a clip ons,but i wanna keep the old school look
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Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2009, 12:44:44 AM »
Here is Steve Hawkins' cafe.  It looks like he used clip-ops.


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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2009, 02:38:42 AM »
These clip-ons are from Tarozzi and can be sourced form here

 http://www.discovolantemoto.co.uk/index.php

There is an adjustable set that might be better for you as well.

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GrimReaper

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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2009, 06:05:44 AM »
Beautiful bike Steve.After analyzing the options i realize that adjustable clip ons are the best idea.The Tarozzi looks pretty nice thought

GrimReaper

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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2009, 09:45:35 PM »
Found this on ebay.Here are the dimentions
a: 565 mm
b: 230 mm
c: 124 mm
d: 22°
e: 37°
f: 45 mm
g: 22 mm x 3 mm
 Are they gonna fit the bike
and a pic

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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 12:06:49 AM »
I guess the critical dimension will be the center-width, to clear the triple-clamp as noted above.

GrimReaper

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Re: Low handlerbars
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2009, 12:36:16 AM »
Clip ons are easy .but  i have to change the headlight bracket i wanna put clip ons

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