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Author Topic: Push Rod tube seals  (Read 1016 times)

steve_wicks

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Push Rod tube seals
« on: May 26, 2009, 05:14:44 PM »
I was wondering just how big a job it is too replace Push Rod tube seals and while I'm at it should I do base gaskets & slap a set of rings in?

Why would pushrod seal oil leks suddenly get worse?

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Re: Push Rod tube seals
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2009, 05:20:50 PM »
The exhaust system needs to come, off so if the finned nuts have never been removed and had anti-seize compound applied to the threads there could be the first trouble spot.

After that it's just pull the cylinder off to change the cylinder base o-ring, and then the push rod tube seals.

Has the torque on the cylinder head hold down nuts ever been checked ?

Possible, that they are loose .
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Re: Push Rod tube seals
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2009, 05:22:56 PM »
Those rubbers get hard with time and heat.  They need replacing periodically.  

Put a light smear of grease on them, on the O.D., and pay attention to their orientation - there is a top & bottom as the are not symmetrical.

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Re: Push Rod tube seals
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2009, 05:26:51 PM »
Depending on the year of airhead, though I think all R65s are the same in this regard, the metal tube that the pushrod goes through has a brazed on circular end that pushes against the rubber seals.  Sometimes this donut of metal starts to come loose and the seals loose their pressure against the crankcase.   Some people have found that if they start putting synthetic oils in an engine that has always used dino-oil that seals start to leak, and reverting back to dino oil eventually cures the problem.  I don't want this to turn into another dreaded oil thread, so I'll stop discussing that right now.

It isn't a HUGE job, but as you guessed, you have to at least pull the heads and slide the cylinders so you can get at the pushrods and tubes, seals, etc. so it is a bit time consuming.   Just go slowly and methodically so that you don't end up with a leak afterwards - which means do it all over again!

Personally, I wouldn't touch the rings unless you are having some oil consumption/smoking issues.  It probably isn't a bad idea to replace the o rings at the base of the cylinders at the same time.

Others will offer their input soon,
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Re: Push Rod tube seals
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2009, 09:50:48 PM »
Hi Steve,

IF the rings on the end of the push rod tube that hold pressure on the seals are loose,  Tap 'em down a bit and put a hose clamp behind them so they don't move again.

Cheap fix.  As to how far those rings must be from the end of the tube -- I don't know.  You might ask on the www.boxerworks.com forum.  Ask for Nathan - he will probably know.

They shouldn't leak at all no matter what oil you use.

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