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Author Topic: Hall Effect Vane Sensors  (Read 6347 times)

Offline Bob_Roller

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Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« on: March 21, 2009, 01:58:34 PM »
I've been thinking about ordering some Honeywell 2AV54 vane sensors that are the heart of the bean can in the electronic ignition system of the '81 and later bikes.

Would there be any interest of any other members here in this part.

They are currently in stock at Newark Electronics.

Cost is $13.32 each plus whatever shipping costs would be.

I would roughly figure that with shipping from Newark to me and then from me to a member, it would be in the $16 range each.

I was looking at the oilhead ignition system, it has two sensors on a small metal plate, with about a 6 inch wiring 'pigtail', and the cost is $219.

I'm considering replacing the sensor on the R65, it's 29 years old, and has spent the last 16 years in the desert heat of Phoenix.
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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2009, 02:06:58 PM »
I ordered a few a while back as several parts-houses list them as "obsolete".
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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2009, 07:27:19 PM »
It may be worth it in the long run, though in Australia we can get it readily through Jaycar store network

http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=ZD1900&keywords=zd1900&form=KEYWORD

I got mine for A$19 over the counter. Who knows how long for though.

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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2009, 10:33:12 PM »
Bob, do you have to order them in bulk or something?

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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2009, 08:14:43 AM »
Considering all the other electrical consternation I've been going through lately, I'm interested in a new or spare Hall effect sensor.  

How involved a job is it to replace?  Looking at the Hall effect items on the Newark site,  I wouldn't begin to even know what to order.

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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2009, 08:20:37 AM »
There is no minimum order, you could just order one, but with a $6-7 minimum shipping cost, you may as well order a few extra.  

You don't get a pricing break, until you order 50 or more.

After seeing the cost to replace the set on the oilhead, for $219, I'm thinking it may be a wise move.
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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2009, 08:25:17 AM »
Quote
Considering all the other electrical consternation I've been going through lately, I'm interested in a new or spare Hall effect sensor.  

How involved a job is it to replace?  Looking at the Hall effect items on the Newark site,  I wouldn't begin to even know what to order.


There's a step by step procedure in the FAQ section.

The manufacturers part number is : 2AV54   (Honeywell).

Just remember, that if you render an internal part unuseable, there are no individual parts available, you would need to get a 'donor' bean can for spare parts.
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2009, 08:49:05 AM »
Quote

Would there be any interest of any other members here in this part.

I'd be interested for my '81. The only question is, how many would it be prudent to order for the long term? In other words, what are the probability & frequency of failure (not counting possible operator stupidity, of course)?

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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2009, 10:16:31 AM »
Well, I will give my bike as an indicator, the serial number of my bike ends with B6385009, the 1981 model year US version of the R65 started with serial number B6385001.

So, I probably have the oldest R65 in the US with electronic ignition still on the road, so figure the sensor was probably manufactured in 1980 sometime, as the date of manufacture of my bike is : 09/80 .

I just turned 80,000 miles on the bike, and it has been ridden in the desert heat of Phoenix going on 16 years.

So I'd say that the sensor is a pretty reliable component.

But like any old electronic component, it may fail on the way home from work today !!

Availability of the part can be a problem sometimes, I was looking last August for the part at Newark Electronics, and they were out of stock, and the manufacturers lead time was about 6 months at that point in time.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2009, 10:22:48 AM by Bob_Roller »
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'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2009, 10:57:43 AM »
Yes I want one. I've been meaning to do the 2 sensor mod to my bean can. If you are ordering them put me down. No postage necessary, I'll meat ya at the gas station or some such,
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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2009, 10:51:33 AM »
I should probably get a couple, I just don't know if Bob could ship them out any cheaper than the vendor?  

Ed Miller
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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2009, 01:36:51 PM »
Ed,

The savings wouldn't amount to much, but I thought I'd throw it out there and see if there was any interest.
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'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2009, 03:57:54 PM »
From your first post it sounded like the HEV Sensor for the R65 is the same as for the Oilheads.  Do I understand that correctly?  If so there are a couple of R1100's that I am the primary support for that need some spares.
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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2009, 04:27:24 PM »
They are the same sensors on the airhead eletronic ignition bikes, and the oilheads.

Do a search for : 2AV54, and you should find some links to various airhead and oilhead articles about replacing them.
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

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Re: Hall Effect Vane Sensors
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2009, 06:04:03 PM »
was just having a look around and stumbled across this site.

http://www.hallsensors.de/Hall-Vane.htm

*The second one down (CHYME56l) looks to includes a plug that looks to be a fit for the wiring loom. Probably needs to be confirmed

*All the PDF documents from the manufacturer state that the customer can specify lengths and connectors.

It may well be worth considering a run of 'drop in' replacement sensors, using the appropriate CYHME301 sensor, with correct length cable, connector and little plastic retainer for the bean can shell.