Hi to all

[mbl]

Hi dear friends,

Have managed to register, back from the old forum.

All's good, except for the bad news that the R65 is down since a week ago, probably due to stripping of the spline?

All was great but problem maybe caused by left carb float sinking due to age, or additives, and gas leaking and causing trouble (the leak went on for days where some days could fix by adjusting and leak would come back).

Have as of yet not touched it due to bad weather here, but would like to ask what'd be an average time-hours job to open whatever it takes to find out and some preliminary orientation?

Some noises took place and then no engaging of gears up or down.

The plan is to try to fix it myself, do have quite a bit of tols, and the Claymer, web-sites, and would, of course, appreciate the support from this group.

Will share back findigs, of course, and also do have some prior things to share, as now have finally managed to re-register, after a few months of being away.

Nice to see you all here.

-mbl-

[Bob_Roller]

If it's your transmission input shaft spline, it's best to let a repair shop experienced in overhaul of your transmission to do the work, specialty tooling for the job will cost you at least half the cost of an overhaul. Where on the face of planet earth do you reside?

[mbl]

Thanks Bob_Roller,

Am in El Paso, TX and we do not have BMW bikes here hardly.

First, need to find out what's the problem and then see what's practical to do.

So, what would be an estimate time to find out if it was the shaft or only parts external to the transmission?

Mainly, don't find it feasible for the whole bike to go out for fix.

Would it be more common that what grinds is not the shaft itself, but rather the clutch side?

If anyone knows anyone in El Paso or Cd. Juarez(across the border) who can handle it, please advice.

Otherwise this might requre an exchange or a used transmission swap and so do appreciate some where-to's too.

Sorry for being in the blind as yet on this.

Thanks.

-mbl-

[Rob Valdez 79 R65]

Hi mbl, glad you found us.

I forget your abilities with a wrench.  I do remember your machine, though.

I think the easiest way to examine your splines is just to loosen the transmission and slide it back so you can see the splines.  That procedure is described here:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/spline/

Completely removing the transmission is not that much more work, and it can easily be boxed up and shipped off to someone.

With just one or two extra tools beyond what is in your bikes tool roll; and a reasonable amount of self-confidence, you could "pull this off" yourself...

[Chris_in_BC]

A little more information could help. You start by mentioning a leak in the carb,  which can have no cause or effect on the transmission.
You then state 'Some noises took place and then no engaging of gears up or down'  If you press down on the gear lever does it not click into a gear? Or does it go into a gear but not move forward?

If it goes into a gear, but howls when you let the clutch out that is probably the input splines.

If it doesn't click into anything when you move the move the gear shift lever up or down, then it could be the $2 spring.

Either way you need to remove the gearbox. This is fairly straight forward and is well documented if you search the net. Then it would make sense, as has already been suggested to just box up the gearbox and send it out for repair.
Definitely not something for a first time player to pull apart.
 Chris

[mbl]

Thanks Bob, what you suggest is pretty much what's about. Yes, have been searching the web and even this forum and first take a look at the spline by that procedure. There's a similar recent problem in this forum which is helpful.

Thanks Chris, frankly the gas-leak is, of course, a supposition, meaning that maybe it leaked into the spline and washed away lub? However, don't think whatever happened had not been latent from earlier. However, am pretty sure it's not something minor. No moving of the lever, it's not in neutral but IS in neutral. It is indeed a matter of finding out for me here, and it will be a few days from now till I start something.

Was asking about time estimate to uncover the evil, so as to be ready, and also due to current weather.

Will open a new thread, then, later. Thanks all for the good words.

Am a little sad on this, but do wish every one to be very happy.

-mbl-

[Rob Valdez 79 R65]

mbl,

I have been told to "never say never", but I don't think it is possible for your fuel overflow to reach the input splines.

Do you have any service records indicating the last time a spline lube was performed?

[Chris_in_BC]

No moving of the lever, it's not in neutral but IS in neutral.

-mbl-

One comment .. the bolt holding the gearshift lever into the side of the gearbox is tight? Be rare for it to be that loose but who knows.

If the lever won't select a gear then it is more likely to be the $2 spring. You still have to open up the gearbox but definitely less expensive than a new input shaft.
Chris