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Author Topic: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant  (Read 50989 times)

Boxer_Bolshie

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2012, 03:56:11 PM »
HA!  I thought my neutral switch wasn't working because I've never seen a light.  Jumping the gun as I normally do I ordered one which just came in yesterday.... However, after cleaning the bike the light now WORKS!  I'll keep the switch for now in case I bung it up during the restoration (which is a definite possibility).

I also took off the cluster cover and found a jungle of bee's nests and spider webs and nests as well.

« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 03:58:12 PM by Boxer_Bolshie »

Offline montmil

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2012, 05:22:00 PM »
The R65's charging system doesn't kick in until revs move beyond 2000 rpm or thereabouts. If you left the bike idling for a period of time, it was running solely on the battery which was not getting any help from the alternator. When the battery ran down, obviously the bike quit running.

Buy a Battery Tender for the scooter and keep it plugged in. Most all of us onboard here have a Tender or similar float charger.

Good score on the shop manual. The Haynes manual is pretty good but the addition of the Clymer book would give you the trifecta.

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1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

Boxer_Bolshie

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2012, 07:36:38 PM »
Thanks Monte!

I noticed today that I had to keep the RPMs up to at least 1250 otherwise the generator light would start to flicker on and the engine would try to quit.

Today one of my parts came in.  The starter switch to replace mine which has a broken toggle.  I would have kept mine but it was difficult to switch on and off.

My broken unit


New (used) unit
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Boxer_Bolshie

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2012, 08:01:04 PM »
Just road the bike back down to the barn in the dark... are exhaust headers supposed to glow?  More specific, the right header side.  Note that in my first set of pics in my introduction in the "Chit Chat" forum that, that is the side that one of the exhaust nuts isn't fully threaded on (I suppose I should take my special fancy new exhaust nut wrench to it to see if it's loose).

Boxer_Bolshie

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2012, 10:39:43 PM »
This just in!



Off of eBay for $28 (incl ship)
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Boxer_Bolshie

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2012, 11:43:58 PM »
Anyone know of a good resource for a stainless steel nuts and bolts kit and full gasket and seal kit for our R65s?  

I've searched eBay but all the kits are sorted for other airheads, sometimes mentioning that they "could" be used for other models.  I just don't want to buy a bunch of bolts to find out I can only use half of them.  Same with a gasket and seal kit.

Thanks!

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2012, 12:38:57 AM »
Carl,

I purchased a complete set of SS bolts from The Bolt Guy for the 81 R65.  Great kit with individually marked bags.  The few fitment issues I encountered were taken care of quickly with good response and communication.
http://www.theboltguy.com/

Rocky Point also supplies SS bolts.
http://www.theboltguy.com/

British Tools
http://www.theboltguy.com/

Mettec
http://store.mettec.com/category/s?keyword=ss+bolts

Bolt Depot
http://www.boltdepot.com/

My only experience with the SS bolt kits for the R65 is with The Bolt Guy.  I found the product and owner very pleasurable to deal with.  As a side note; I've had no problems at all with gauling or failures of any kind. No personal affiliation or business interest.

Here's a link to some photos of the set for the R65 I purchased.

http://tinyurl.com/6s638o9

-Mike V.



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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2012, 06:03:28 AM »
Wow she cleaned up nicely 8-) D2

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2012, 06:05:49 AM »
Hi BB lovely looking bike. We have the same model although the last time I rebuild mine in "96 I put a set of R80 hi - bars on because I have a lower back problem. Best thing I did.
I want to ask about your panniers. I have a set on mine that are very tired looking and need lots of "Black Again" type polish to keep them looking good. You mention that you're repainting them. What process and paint are you using to achieve a good finish? I had consider respraying mine but was always unsure about whether or not even special paint would adhere well. Thanks ... Adrian
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Offline montmil

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2012, 01:20:17 PM »
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Just road the bike back down to the barn in the dark... are exhaust headers supposed to glow?  More specific, the right header side.  Note that in my first set of pics in my introduction in the "Chit Chat" forum that, that is the side that one of the exhaust nuts isn't fully threaded on (I suppose I should take my special fancy new exhaust nut wrench to it to see if it's loose).

Perhaps while in storage a colony of gloworms has taken up residence? :D

No, the header pipes should not be glowing. Without further investigation, you really won't know for sure if the right side is running too rich or to lean. Either way, it's not good. Have you set the valve lash yet? Incorrect clearance can cause problems. Set exhaust at 0.008". Take a look at the condition of both sparkle plugs. Compare. And there is also the concern of exhaust valve recession...

About that partially unscrewed header nut. It may just not be screwed down all the way or it could be the curse of the buggered threads on the cylinder head exhaust spigot. Do not get overly aggressive with the exhaust nut wrench, aka: the Fugawee War Club. If the nut will not come off easily, you will need to saw it off to save the spigot threads and an expensive repair. One of the annual Airhead maintenance chores is to remove both exhaust nuts and apply a fresh smear of anti-seize compound.

IMHO, it may be time to do a full service on the bike; lubricants, spline lube at clutch and final drive, engine, carburetion, new tires...  Catch the deferred maintenance issues before they catch you out.


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1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet

Boxer_Bolshie

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2012, 03:40:25 PM »
Thanks for the awesome help everyone!

Have been having some good luck lately as she's firing right up now though I still have to feather the choke for a couple of minutes and then just keep the revs up while riding which I've not done too much of yet.

Mike, I'll check out those sites and hopefully order a set today.

Adrien, I'm up and down about weather to paint them or not.  If I do I would clean them well with denatured alcohol and then prep them with adhesive promoter.  Then use flexible parts primer (plastic primer) and then adhesive promoter again before a series of three coats of black plastic (or bumper black) paint and a couple coats of clear coat.  

Monte, I'll check the nut to see if it easily comes off and put some anti-seize on them.  Then I'll check the plugs and valve lash.  What am I looking for with exhaust valve recession?

I'm pretty positive I need to do a full service lube job and have that in my TODO list along with the rebuild.  My list has been growing and evolving as I learn more and more about the bike and the do's and don'ts.

A FEW QUESTIONS
I'm not sure I like the low (Euro) bars and will be looking for a set a little higher. Something comfortable for a middle aged man for commuting and light tours.  Anyone have any good recommendations?
Does anyone have a good source for a good full gasket & hose kit?

We have a LOT of gravel roads here and most of the paving is chip seal.  As a result I'm going to need some good tires for rough and loose road conditions.  I discovered the ones in the below pics but don't have a brand and model on them.  Anyone have any info on these or if I should forgo them in favour of better rubber?  I do want to get wider wheels including a 120mm rear.
Is there another model with a bigger fuel tank which would fit on our R65? I'm thinking for touring purposes.
What are y'alls thoughts on running a 40mm carb set?

Here is what I have so far which as either came with the bike or parts I've ordered and received so far for Bolshie (not sure I like naming vehicles):
Oil filters
New centre stand (mine is pretty buggered up)
Side stand tension springs
Braced swingarm
Brash bars
Exhaust nut set (with wrench)
Head cover gasket set
Right caliper (will order rotor as soon as a good deal come through and I have the extra cash)
Front brake switch
Choke cable
Taillight
Trunk rack

Things I got with the bike I probably wont use and will be up for sale or trade (if anyone is interested)
:
NOS foot peg covers
Fork reflectors for non R65 (maybe the R100?)
Neutral switch with crush washer
And a few other bolts and washers that I haven't IDed yet.

Things I need and will be looking for a deal on:
Battery Tender (brandname)
Muffler guards (one of the panniers had some plastic stuff melt on the inside)
SS nut and bolt kit as mentioned
Gasket and hose sets as mentioned
Fork and shock rebuild kits and progressive springs
Carb rebuild kit
Good comfy (but not foam) grips (heated preferably)
Higher handlebars as mentioned
Original tool kit
Double seat foam in good to excellent condition
OEM rotor as mentioned (matching my left Brembo rotor)
Brake pads (front and rear)
Better mirrors (anyone have any recommendations?)
Badging especially the cluster badge
Brown side stand

Some things I will be doing later are:
R90 voltmeter
Fairing
Corbin double touring seat
Aux lighting
R80 heads
I heard there's a better and lighter starter out there
H4 Xenon or Halogen headlamp
LED taillight replacement
LED running lights (LiteBuddys and Run-N-Lites)

This list is not complete but feel free to comment on what I have so far.

Thanks again!
« Last Edit: January 26, 2012, 04:00:51 PM by Boxer_Bolshie »

Boxer_Bolshie

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2012, 07:11:50 PM »
I think I answered my question on the tires.  I think they are Pirelli MT 90 Scorpion A/T Enduros

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2012, 05:57:25 AM »
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I'm not sure I like the low (Euro) bars and will be looking for a set a little higher. Something comfortable for a middle aged man for commuting and light tours.  Anyone have any good recommendations?
Flanders makes bar for BMW which are good quality. I bought my Flanders (Euro Low) bars from http://www.sidestreetcycles.com They mostly have Harley stuff but they have a section of European/BMW bars. D2

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #28 on: January 28, 2012, 06:00:11 AM »
MY ADD is really showing ::) Make that http://www.sideroadcycles.com

Boxer_Bolshie

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Re: Boxer Bolshie's '84 Restoration and Rant
« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2012, 12:40:19 PM »
Hey anyone!

Just started a new blog on this project.  I will continue to update my progress but the blog will hopefully have more detailed info as I go along.

http://www.twosr65twin.com

I also got a few more parts in

« Last Edit: January 31, 2012, 12:43:03 PM by Boxer_Bolshie »