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Offline Lordcargo

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Tires tubes ?
« on: December 09, 2019, 10:04:30 AM »
I currently am running Dunlop d404's front and rear. They came with the bike and currently need replaced. They appear to be tubeless but my manual says the bike needs tubes. Could they be mounted without tubes ? To make matters even more confusing the tires say "tubeless on tubed". I would rather just avoid tubes if I can and don't need high performance tires for the type of riding I do. WTF ?
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Offline Matt Chapter

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Re: Tires tubes ?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2019, 11:45:13 AM »
Certain BMW wheels are not "tubeless" per se but can work without them.  There are several threads that describe which wheels these are, you may be able to find them with a forum search.

I have the tri-y monoshock wheels which are actually tubeless.
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Offline tiggum

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Re: Tires tubes ?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2019, 12:38:01 PM »
I am certain that you are correct about the wheels from the mono shock R65, but those of us with the older wheels would be better off with tubes.  Not interested in having a tire deflate in hard cornering.

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Re: Tires tubes ?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2019, 04:22:16 PM »
Here's a link with lots of information of using or not using tubes on airhead bikes, if you don't fall asleep before finishing it !!!

https://bmwmotorcycletech.info/section6.htm
« Last Edit: December 09, 2019, 04:23:31 PM by Bob_Roller »
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Offline mrclubike

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Re: Tires tubes ?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2020, 09:20:52 PM »
40000 miles on tubeless snowflakes and would not even consider putting those pain in the rear tubes back in ;D

For More information read my thread titled
"Getting a Pilit Activ to seat on a snow flake"
« Last Edit: March 12, 2020, 09:35:11 PM by Mrclubike »
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Offline wilcom

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Re: Tires tubes ?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2020, 01:16:49 PM »
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Could they be mounted without tubes ?

That depends on who is doing the mounting? If you take your stuff to a shop, they will likely not mount a tire for you tubeless since the manufacturer said they were tube type wheels.

If you do your own work, it's your call, many on this forum have run their tires tubeless for years and countless miles.

For years I have mounted my own tires. Lately(20 years later) I find the task too much for my age or patients/age or a combination of the both.

I tried to set up my R65 tubeless and could not get enough air in the tire to seat the outer bead and inflate. After days struggling with this problem I decided I would just go back to tubes and be done with it.

New problem, I can no longer put the outer bead on the wheel with out puncturing the tube in MULTIPLE places. Carefully I tried again and found the same results..... so now my tires and tubes go to the shop and I pay. What I get for my money are the two days I would have lost trying to do it myself.

Naturally, YMMV and you will be able to mount tires either tubeless or with tubes in a couple of hours, lots of folks can.

If you do go tubeless and end up out of town on a trip and are forced to go to a shop for repairs, they will not repair your tubeless tire and mount it back on your tubed wheel. Carry a tube with you even if you run tubeless, Many shops no longer carry our size.
« Last Edit: April 16, 2020, 01:17:49 PM by wilcom »
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