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Offline Justin B.

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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2009, 08:15:53 PM »
The "Dark Lord of the Hex-Head" indicates he has it boiled down to probably 2 candidates...
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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #31 on: February 12, 2009, 08:33:03 PM »
OK.  I've found a new host after talking to some people, reading reviews, and talking to the sales people at bluehost.com.  The sound quite a bit better than my current host.  I'll probably make the move sometime in the next week.

Basically what I'll attempt to do is setup the new host with the new YaBB forum (2.3.1) and migrate the existing forum data over.  Once I have that up and running, I'll make the official DNS switch, move the latest forum data from this host over to the new one, and that should result in the least amount of downtown for people.  It should go pretty seamlessly, but there is potential for a couple of lost posts as DNS changes can take a couple of days to propagate -- that means it's possible that some people will be seeing the new host while a handful of others will be seeing the old host (other than not moving hosts, there's not a lot we can do about that).

If people are concerned about the possibility of having two forums up and running while the DNS changes propagate, we can disable the forum on the old host so that only the new host has a working forum.  I'll leave that call up to you guys.


Just FYI, someone mentioned using the r65.org redirect to get to the forum earlier.  That redirect should still work after the move is made.
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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #32 on: February 12, 2009, 09:35:27 PM »
May I buy you and your guest dinner?


Justin - you might want to put a notice in the Announcements section if we expect some downtime.

I just now saw this thread wake back up, myself!
« Last Edit: February 12, 2009, 09:40:27 PM by Rob_Valdez_79_R65 »
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Offline suraklyn

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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #33 on: February 12, 2009, 11:06:23 PM »
I really misused the word downtime; there won't actually be downtime.  The only issue is that there will be overlap when both hosts are up and running and accessible -- accessibility will be based on where you are in the world.  Because notification of a host change can't be made worldwide in an instant, we will run into a situation where people in one part of the world are hitting the new host while people on the other side of the world may be hitting the old host -- this will result in posts being made in the forum on the old host not getting added to the forum on the new host.  This is pretty unavoidable.

To explain it another way...

Think of moving to a new street address.  You'll send a letter to everyone you know through the mail to let them know about your new address.  Not everyone gets your letter at the same time, so your friends gradually get notified of your new address.  Until everyone is notified, there is potential that one of your friends could send a letter to your old address.


A propagation like this takes at most 2-3 days to make it worldwide but most people will be hitting the new host within 1 day.  I'll see if I can do a redirect on the old host to the new host through an IP address once I do the move, so people hitting the old host can hit the new host.

No need to worry too much.  I've put a fair amount of thought into making this as seamless as possible.
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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2009, 02:56:41 AM »
 :o

<Raises hand>

Excuse me Sir.

Can I leave now? My brain is full.
« Last Edit: February 13, 2009, 03:03:46 AM by aussie »
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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2009, 06:18:05 PM »
I'd recommend making a sticky in the General Announcements at least, notifying people that they may have connection issues for a bit but to please be patient.

A local BMW forum I go to is doing similar things now - they've decided to just lock out all new posts for the 2 days they're doing the move., and they've posted
the notice in the "home page" as well as a sticky/announcement.   They are NOT using YABB, though.

Some people's ISPs will be much quicker on the uptake for the IP changes and DNS resolution, but it should get there eventually.   My ISP used to be notoriously slow about this, but they;ve become much better.  The latest fiasco in our region is that Verizon (off-shoot from the AT&T breakup) which HAD
owned and operated all the land-based lines in most of New England region just sold them all to a company called FairPoint.   The transition has not gone smoothly, and many people 'round here are having numerous email/ISP/web access issues.  Not me, though - I've been with the same small ISP for a number of years, now, and this is the FIRST time that I'm glad that I've stuck with them !!!
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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2009, 07:47:08 AM »
I'm with Aussie.  Ouch!

 :o

Sounds good Hexhead,  Let us know if we can help defer the costs.

Thanks,

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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2009, 10:21:06 AM »
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I'd recommend making a sticky in the General Announcements at least, notifying people that they may have connection issues for a bit but to please be patient.
 
A local BMW forum I go to is doing similar things now - they've decided to just lock out all new posts for the 2 days they're doing the move., and they've posted the notice in the "home page" as well as a sticky/announcement.  

+1 on this.  But it sounds like suraklyn has it under control.  My brother uses bluehost as well and had recommended them to me last year.  THANKS for all your effort on this!!   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2009, 11:44:55 AM »
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:o

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Can I leave now? My brain is full.

Oooo!  Me too.   :-?  
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Offline Justin B.

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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2009, 08:49:32 PM »
I'll e-mail you and we can cuss and discuss things...
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Re: Possible Host Move
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2009, 10:23:15 PM »
Thanks for everything, suraklyn and Justin.
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