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Offline Motu

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Finally got here....
« on: January 16, 2009, 01:50:35 AM »
I had a bit of trouble getting onto this site - 23 days apparently.It wouldn't accept my passwaord...and when I requested forgotten password it said email successfully sent,but I never received any emails.After a large campaign of many many request I finally got a response from this site.Still another day before a password would work.I thought NZ was the only place that totally shut down for Xmas.

So,yes...I am from New Zealand - a country with a population of 4 million....and 70 million corners.Motorcycling paradise.

The 1987 R65 was originally my wife's - but we had to reassess our motorcycles...too many bikes to register and insure,and not enough use to warrant that expenditure.So I sold my road bikes (1992 XT600E,1997 DT230) and took over the R65 (she has never liked me meddling with her bikes,so I'm a bit worried about what I have done with it).I still have a shed full of dirt bikes and projects,but they are not an on going cost.

My riding is mostly back roads and gravel,hence the adventure bikes,and I wanted to get back to a ''do all'' bike like we used to ride in the '70's and early '80's....and I have been wanting to make a streettracker for some time.Dirt bikes are not that good in gravel - the centre of gravity is too high,and the weight bias too much on the rear wheel....I was wanting to use a bike with a more ''classic'' set up,low CoG and more balanced weight dist.Hard to find a bike less than 20 years old like that - the W650 is a classic in it's own lifetime and over priced,the Sporty is also overpriced and there would be a queue of low life's lining up outside my shed to steal it.Then I cast my eye over the R65 in the corner - 650cc 2 valve pushrod twin....and ''classic to boot!

After my first few rides on my favorite roads I was less than impressed with the R65,my adventure bikes would run rings around it...with low narrow bars the thing was just a lumbering barge.So I got some Slideways flattrack bars from Omar's - this gave me a more upright dirtbike riding position,I could move around more,and the wide bars gave me more leverage to make the bike go where I wanted it to go.Next was the tyres - I wanted to use K180 dirttrack tyres,but they were out of stock....so I took a gamble on Dunlop K70's,the flattrack tyre of the '60's and '70's.

I've been riding gravel roads and nasty poor condition coarse chip sealed roads for several decades - and the streettracker R65 is the best bike I've ever used on these roads (apart from my Rickman Metisse) I run 20/25psi in the K70's,they are soft compound and flex and grip better than any dirt or adventure tyre.I have since fitted a small fly screen and crash bars,and really want a streettracker seat - but the massive drop in exchange rate rules out any US purchase....there are a couple of guys in NZ who make an XR750 seat,but they are a bit hard to get motivated.I have a spare set of wheels with street tyres,and when I fit a streettracker seat will just swap subframes to go back to a touring bike.

Anyway,something different from another place....but still an R65....


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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2009, 02:49:59 AM »
Welcome aboard Motu from the other side of the Sea. I see you mentioned the population and the corners but forgot the sheep - 30 million?

An interesting set up and I'm glad that it works for you - I mean after all - the riding is what it is all about.  :)

People here are generally helpful and don't bite a hell of a lot.

Snip: <I thought NZ was the only place that totally shut down for Xmas>.

Kinda reminds me of a t-shirt I bought when I was over there: 'Would the last person leaving NZ please turn off the lights?'

Cheers
« Last Edit: January 16, 2009, 02:50:25 AM by aussie »

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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2009, 03:29:49 AM »
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Welcome aboard Motu from the other side of the Sea. I see you mentioned the population and the corners but forgot the sheep - 30 million?
 

Used to be 70 million sheep....now it's 70 million possums.Nearly every corner has a dead possum on it.

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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2009, 09:31:47 AM »
Welcome aboard !   Glad that you were patient and persistent - maybe the cable through the Pacific does double duty for something else ?

I hope to make it to New Zealand and Australia some day.    Everyone tells me that New Zealand is the best place in the world for trout fly-fishing, too.
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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2009, 10:00:10 AM »
Welcome,

You are not the only person to venture off the beaten track with thier R65.  Ohters will pipe up soon though

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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2009, 10:30:25 AM »
Hi and welcome. A flattrack R65? Cool. Think I would use a front fender, but a great idea anyway.

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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2009, 04:19:48 PM »
I had to lift the fork brace to fit the 4.00x18 tyre,and the original guard will never fit in there.The flattrack/streettrack look is no front guard....and they are a legal requirement in New Zealand.Fitting a guard will not be easy....got my thinking cap on....

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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2009, 06:22:53 PM »
Motu,
I picked up on the bars and big fat K70 [factory fitment on '70s era Triumphs] right away. That's what drew me to your introduction. Before I read it I thought, whats this guy up to? Now I know! nice setup for purpose riding. Have you given any thought to double high pipes exiting on one side a la scramblers of the past? Keep us all posted and don't be shy to share some photos of the beautiful country you ride in.
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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2009, 06:24:35 PM »
I would think that the handling would be pretty slow with that large a profile front tire on there, but perhaps if you are doing alot of dirt/loose gravel road riding, you won't that slowness and mass to keep the direction you want rather than to be upset by loose gravel?

I think that I see that you still have the front fork "brace" on there which would have gone over the top of the front mudguard?   IF you were to take a front mud guard and cut out the edges so that it could fit OVER the brace, maybe you could drill some small holes for mounting screws in the brace ?   Would that work ?
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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2009, 07:55:16 PM »
Welcome Motu!

I really like your bike and what you are doing with it!  

Back when I was young (I bought my R65 when I was 23) I used to pretend it was a G/S when they came out - even with my low bars.  I did buy a Metzler Sahara for an extra rear wheel I had, and managed to get myself in plenty of trouble pretending I knew what I was doing in the less populated areas of my state, searching for two-track, and if I was lucky, single-track "roads" to ride!





Now I am "old" and beat up (the bike, too... :'() and I don't get crazy like that, anymore.  I wanted to, but destiny chose a different path for me...

Here is a picture of mine, shortly before I wrecked it:


 

Also, back around 1990, I came across a GS front fender.  I used flat steel stock, and fabricated two brackets that held the fender on up high, under the lower triple clamp.  It was cool.  I got tired of dragging it around and sold it.   :-[   Can't keep everything, with the nomadic lifestyle I have lived.


Welcome again.  :)

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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2009, 06:27:35 AM »
Welcome aboard!

My eldest daughter visited NZ in 1997 and when she came home she declared that she wanted to be a New Zealand shepherd. She had done a forthnight of shepherding (is that a word?) on horseback and was absolutely thrilled. She ended up i Afghanistan, where she spent two years as an international help worker. Thrilling as well, but that is another story.

greetings from a grey and windy north with 32F

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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2009, 07:23:45 AM »
Welcome Motu. You are not perhaps a keen All Black supporter ?

My R65 is also a 1987 monoshock (registred during 1988 for the first time - ex police bike)

The front tyre on your bike seems to be quite big. What size tyre do you have on there ? The front tyre on my R65 is a 90/90/ - 18, and the only brand in that size I can find locally is Kenda - rated for smaller bikes though.

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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2009, 07:45:00 PM »
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Welcome Motu. You are not perhaps a keen All Black supporter ?

Comes with the location,we are bred that way.Although I am not very interested in the modern professional game - gone are the days when guys walked off their farms and spent a couple of weeks bashing the Springboks.

Looks are secondary,I will do the streettracker seat when I find one,just to define what I am doing,but getting it to handle how I wanted was the first task.Flattrack has been a big interest to me since I first saw On Any Sunday,and read the Peterson's Motorcycle Quarterlies.We didn't do flattrack in New Zealand,although it was fairly popular from the late '70's to the early '90's.I did it for a few years on our local car dirt track - pretty rough,but it was good fun.It taught me a lot,like having a big front tyre and controlling a front wheel slide. Seeing as I couldn't do much flattrack,I have spent a lot of my 40 years on motorcycles doing a lot of gravel road riding.We still have a lot of gravel roads here,and my home territory is where they hold the WRC.A lot of the roads I rode when younger are now sealed - although the way they make a sealed road here is just to run a roller over a gravel road,spray on some tar and coat it with coarse chip.

The South Island is where all the tourists go,and for a good reason...it's beautiful.Mountains,rivers,lakes,nice roads,not many people.But most people live in the North Island,not as scenic....but it's where the jobs are.More people,more roads - but the roads twist and turn up and down hills,around the coast,through the bush.The North Island is about beaches.It has the best roads to ride a bike on - if you like corners that is,they just go on and on...forever.


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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2009, 08:05:41 PM »
Sounds like a great place. We have lots of empty roads in Arizona, not near enough curves. Welcome aboard.

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Re: Finally got here....
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2009, 07:40:40 AM »
Welcome aboard!  Good to see another "Mono" surface.  You'll notice that we're in the minority here, but the "Dual Shock" people make us feel very welcome.
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Keep the pictures and info coming.

What size tires do you have that allow such low pressures?  If I dropped down that low my bike would get pretty "squirrely".

Best,
Ed