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Author Topic: Salvaged R65 Winter built  (Read 25431 times)

Jon_P

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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #60 on: May 30, 2007, 01:33:20 PM »
eurotec came through for me again! i asked about brake lines and told them what i was doing. well they had one made to what i needed and got it to me in record time! i got it all on and started to bleed the system. i was real close before leaving for work so when i get home i can finish easy enough.

what i ended up doing is removed the brake lines and tee from the master cylinder all the way down to the steel line that comes out of the caliper. i installed the front brake pressure switch where the steel line was coming out of in the master cylinder. i found that the master cylinder has a built in tee! so i removed the plug from the bottom and installed the new brake line with a banjo bolt and fitting there. nice clean easy set up. i will get some pixs so everyone can see. as far as price for the custom line? no more than getting the steel lines and hoses that are for stock, maybe even a little less.

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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #61 on: June 10, 2007, 04:21:05 PM »
i finely got it running really well! like a raped ape. my worries of not having a fourth gear where settled. i do have all the gears. i need to get my rear lamp worked out because it works in the wrong key position. my exhaust is loud! really really loud, i think i really need to shange them out to supertrapps mini cans.

i will ride it like it is for now and i may consider changing over to a mono shock set up this next coming winter along with having the frame redone, there is a new start up business next to my shop and they will be offering chrome and powder coating so i may have to look at doing something like that!

i have the black tank off to the painter for a new coat of black paint. once it vents out for a week or two i will do a graphic like the orange tank but do the graphic in white.

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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #62 on: June 13, 2007, 03:38:24 AM »
Jon,

I have nothing against the mono shock arrangement, but I prefer the twin shock.  Seems a lot of grief for little gain.

Get hold of some wire wheels first......
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Jon_P

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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #63 on: June 13, 2007, 09:12:20 AM »
i have a line on some spokers! so maybe it will work out.

i have a crazy idea for a different rear supension set up. going to brace the swing arm and then go from there. it seems like a pretty straight foward fab job so maybe i can even make it happen yet this summer or fall! yet need to gather some more parts.

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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #64 on: June 17, 2007, 05:23:47 AM »
Whatever 'floats your boat' Jon.

Be interested to see it whatever you do.

Steve H
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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #65 on: July 04, 2007, 12:20:53 PM »
ok the last changes i think ;D

i wanted to rework the whole rear supension but there just wasnt enough room without having to rework the whole frame and i wasnt feeling up to doing that just yet.

i did remove the rear sub frame and fab some new shock mounts and seat rails.

i did also get rid of those cheap loud mufflers and get some supertrapps that can be tuned. i can make them loud or quite or somewhere in between. think i am going to go with the somewhere in between (i do live in the land of loud pipes saves lives ;D) plus the HD guys will think i am nuts anyways.

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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2007, 12:23:31 PM »
i am going to do a graphic like i did on the orange tank on this black one only in white. then i can switch out when i need a change in color in my life. but i have to wait till the paint finishes it out gas before that can be done.


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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #67 on: July 04, 2007, 12:26:37 PM »
I like what you've done! please put a few more pics up on photo bucket or somthin' like that. Not a rainy day bike eh!
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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2007, 12:33:24 PM »
i just started out on myspace so i will do a build blog out there with all the build up pixs. i have a camera close by so when i am building i take a ton of pixs but never post them becuase it would really eat up some space.

rain? i have a rain suite. i dont mind the rain, it will be the stones that hit me reminding me to wear my jacket with the back protector ;D

 this winter it will be toren down again and sent next door for a powder coat of the frame. i have from now and till then figure out what color. a chrome like, black, thought about white but i would have to keep it really clean then. so i think its down to black or a chrome like. what does everyone think? now remember i want to be able to switch from my orange tank to black so it has to go with both. and i will most likely do the rims the same color.
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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #69 on: July 04, 2007, 12:45:24 PM »
Damn Jon, that's slick! I really like what you've done there, especially with the whole solo seat & shocks area! Nice!![smiley=thumbsup.gif]
That's quite a change from the way this project began, huh?
So, are you planning to stay fenderless, or maybe go with some smaller fiberglass units?
There are some cool rear fenders that are short & incorporate the tag & lights...
Keep us updated, and also keep up the great work! ;)

ps: I see you've prominently featured the Brown sidestand... ;D
pps: Keep the bike a glossy black!
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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #70 on: July 05, 2007, 04:47:39 AM »
Jon,

Like that seat arrangement and the shocks.  Bet that stiffened up the rear end.  Which leads me back to the question I asked earlier.  If you have stiffened up the rear shock mounts for the twin shocks setup, you have already resolved much of the supposed advantages of the mono shock setup - bar the swing arm itself? I.e. you have rid yourself of the flexy subframe.  If I were you, I would look to a second frame to mess around with for the proposed mono conversion.  This current one looks pretty damn fine to me!  

You could use an aluminium blade fender at the back and have it hug the wheel closely, mounted from the swingarm, like a modern hugger or an old BMW racer.  leave it bare or paint it.  A small blade type fender for the front would not go amiss either...

This is talking from a UK perspective - wettest June since records began - and still raining!  

Of course if you can get away with it, with no fenders at all and it does not rain much - why the hell not?

How about some badges for the tanks.....Leave the Harley riders in no doubt what you have.

Finally - paint.  Do not paint too much of the bike the same colour.......frame and tank in one colour is enough.....if you do the wheels the same colour it might well be too much.  Keep the wheels in a contrasting colour and do not paint the engine, unless you can guarrantee to do it very well indeed - and then not in the same colour as the rest of the bike.  Keeping the wheels silver might still be your best bet, unless you can get them wires and then it won't matter.  

My humble oppinion only.  I am very jelous... >:(

Keep on hacking

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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #71 on: July 05, 2007, 09:44:32 AM »
i am lucky enough to have another frame for this! i would need to get a new swingarm and drive shaft if i where to go to a mono shock set up on that frame.

as far as it stiffen the frame because everything is welded together and not bolted. i have done things like this before and learned that you cant go any farther over with the shocks. the angle of the shock effects how it works, i had set it up so the shocks mounts are the same distance from the pivot point of the swing arm and that keeps the shock at almost 70% of its use so i lost a little in the shocks. i can ride it but i do have a set of stiffer springs coming for them.

i wont paint the engine, i like it raw like it is, plus its easy to clean with soapy water and a brightpad.

i had it over at my sister-in-laws house last night for the holiday. her husband is a HD guy along with his friends. they could stop talking about it. everyone was sitting on it. i had got four offers to work on their bikes. ;D plus they did like the sound of it because it had a deep rubble to her cuz i am running all the disc on her exhaust cans.

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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #72 on: July 06, 2007, 10:42:44 PM »
Wow Jon P,

Here is another bike a lot like yours.  Love the paint on this bike.  Keep up the good work.

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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #73 on: July 08, 2007, 09:30:32 PM »
i was out riding today on it. maybe because i didnt ride it that much or because i changed the rear end, i have to get used to the rear end lifting when i get on the throttle. unlike my chain drive bikes that drop in the rear when i get on them.

i goofed up on the wiring because now i dont have a rear marker or brake lamp! have to get that worked out. the supertrapps mini cans work nice, they have a nice growl at idle and not enough to drive my neighbors nuts but when i get on it she barks a little.

when i got home i started looking at why i didnt have rear lamps and moved the seat back a inch.  

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Re: Salvaged R65 Winter built
« Reply #74 on: July 09, 2007, 03:42:51 AM »
This bike just about gets away with the all black theme, in my opinion, but only because there is just enough contrast with the tank paint and the spokes etc.

Nice looking machine.

Jon, the stiffer rear springs you were talking about earlier will help with the 'shaft effect' i.e the lifting of the rear.  But you are never going to be rid of it entirely.  Perhaps the angle that the shocks are now at is also implicated. Most people learn to live with it though.  

Also you have a significant portion of the weight of the bike up front, ie. you with your clip-ons leaning forward, so the bike is less loaded at the rear and more mobile with the softer springs.  The seat move will help.

Let us know how you get on..

Steve H
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