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JPSpen

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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2011, 02:11:38 PM »
Looks like the oil leak is from the boot...A big drip hanging there this mornign..

Any Ideas ?  Take it apart and clean the surfaces good and put her back together ?

The bike was serviced in December.. The tech didn't do a very good job on the carbs.. Is the driveshaft wet on this bike ?

John
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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2011, 02:17:26 PM »
Have you tried just tightening up the clamps a bit ?
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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2011, 03:19:37 PM »
Actually I just tightened the rear clamp quite a bit...So we'll see on that..

Again I ask the question.. It this drive shaft wet ?  is there supposed to be oil in there. ?  I took out the filler plug and dipped a piece of wire in there.. It didn't go very far and didn't have oil on it when it came back out...I'm going to have to do a little more reading on the duolever and see what's up..

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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2011, 03:34:50 PM »
The forward most fill port on the final drive is the fill port for the drive shaft .

The u-joint gets splash lubed from this oil, you should always get a few fluid ounces of oil when you pull the boot free of the transmission or swing arm .

When you replace the oil, you put in a measured amount, can't remember right now what it's supposed to be, I think it's 250 ml, but not real sure .
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'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

JPSpen

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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2011, 04:12:24 PM »
OK, thanks Rob, That's re-assuring.. So as long as it's leaking their is oil in it.  ;)

Or it's coming out of the transmission... Think I'll check that just for giggles...
The clamp in the rear looks like it's been f'messed with a little anyway..
Found a local Ambo today.. It's friggin awesome... I'm thinking about going and buying it too... I'm going to give myself overnight I think...
Maybe in the morning it'll be sold.. That'd be my luck...

John
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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2011, 05:11:23 PM »
And , it appears that JPSpen is our 1000th member of the forum - welcome aboard (big pile of confetti showering down)!
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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2011, 05:11:25 PM »
And that drain plug for the drive-shaft WILL strip out quite easily if you attempt to stop a leak by tightening it beyond spec.  (I have a heli-coil in mine...  :-[ )
For this reason, I like to seek out the REAL copper crush washers that were easily available back in the eighties.  Now the only place I know to buy them is Hucky's: http://www.bmwhucky.com/010026.html

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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2011, 05:13:23 PM »
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And , it appears that JPSpen is our 1000th member of the forum - welcome aboard (big pile of confetti showering down)!
It's O.K. Mike, only me!  ;)
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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2011, 08:23:07 PM »
I generally try to re-anneal my crush washers... :o

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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2011, 08:43:59 PM »
Thanks, Rob!   I suspected it was you, but if it wasn't, then there truly is a ghost in the machine!

JPSpen - I've had only partial success re-using these crush washers - general theory is that it is best to have some around (they aren't expensive) as anytime I've had one start to leak on me, it cost me WAAY more time and $$ to repair the damage than the 15 cents or so for the washer.
YMMV

AS to the swingarm/driveshaft oil level, the BMW manuals indicate that if one sticks a small flat tip screw driver straightdown into the driveshaft fill hole on top, with the bike on its centerstand on a level surface, the oil level is correct if there is 1-2mm of oil on the tip of the screwdriver.  It will not go down far into the hole before it contacts the driveshaft itself - the driveshaft should be just immersed in the oil at that point.
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JPSpen

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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2011, 08:30:13 AM »
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AS to the swingarm/driveshaft oil level, the BMW manuals indicate that if one sticks a small flat tip screw driver straightdown into the driveshaft fill hole on top, with the bike on its centerstand on a level surface, the oil level is correct if there is 1-2mm of oil on the tip of the screwdriver.  It will not go down far into the hole before it contacts the driveshaft itself - the driveshaft should be just immersed in the oil at that point.

Now how easy was that... Too bad It couldn't be that simple in the shop manual...

Thanks...

John
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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2011, 03:57:59 PM »
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In my experience, the BMW riders I have associated with seemed to consider themselves and their rides far superior to any other, especially any other push rod twin.

Now how easy was that... Too bad It couldn't be that simple in the shop manual...

Thanks...

John
Who are you quoting?

You should really consider getting one of the riders manuals (the one that fits under the seat) for you bike.
It is a wealth of information - like where on the bike do I need oil? :)

Here is a scanned copy we keep online.  I believe it is for the '81-'84 models.  The '78-'80 were not that different, however.
http://www.bmwr65.org/htdocs/yabbfiles/Attachments/R65OwnersManual_001.pdf

It is in this thread, which is found in the FAQ section:
http://www.bmwr65.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1271881232

That is a good section to browse through.
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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2011, 04:28:33 PM »
Oops... Copy/paste fail....

Fixd...

John
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Re: New to me R65
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2011, 07:52:39 PM »
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Now how easy was that... Too bad It couldn't be that simple in the shop manual...
 
Yeah, if you check the PDF of the Riders Manual - page 55 of the book, page 20 of the PDF, you will see in the far right picture that very procedure.

http://www.bmwr65.org/htdocs/yabbfiles/Attachments/R65OwnersManual_001.pdf
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