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Offline montmil

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Re: Shocks
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2009, 10:06:56 PM »
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I get no nifty box around the quote?

Amps, You oughta get this.   Monte
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Re: Shocks
« Reply #31 on: August 05, 2009, 07:28:06 AM »
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Hey Begnt, what you notice different about your bike compared to pre Hagon?  
The Hagons are much firmer in the corners.  The old ones felt pretty mushy.  At 245 lbs I have more than my share of avoirdupois so the firmer shocks helped.  When I ordered Dave Quinn took a lot of time asking questions about how I ride and what I wanted to do with the bike.  I went with his recommendations and have not been disappointed.  I'd buy again without any hesitation, especially considering the price.
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Re: Shocks
« Reply #32 on: August 05, 2009, 09:08:23 AM »
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avoirdupois

Now I had to look that one up! ;) Pretty weighty words there, Bengt.  
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Offline Justin B.

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Re: Shocks
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2009, 11:53:45 AM »
See how mind expanding this site can be?  ;D
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Re: Shocks
« Reply #34 on: August 05, 2009, 12:06:09 PM »
IMHO, it may not be Mike's mind that is expanding.

"When I ordered, Dave Quinn took a lot of time asking questions about ...what I wanted to do with the bike."

I wanta ride the bike to more BBQ joints, sez the Mikester. No... Don't cut the fat off that brisket!

Luv ya, Mike. I'm just a little bummed out 'cause you're getting to go on a neat BMW-crew ride this weekend while I get to entertain two little grandchildren. Females. Four and seven years old. Active.

I'm exhausted already. [smiley=zzz.gif]     Monte
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Re: Shocks
« Reply #35 on: August 05, 2009, 02:57:57 PM »
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avoirdupois

Now I had to look that one up! ;) Pretty weighty words there, Bengt.  
I think it's funny that our name for the metric system is English, but our name for the English system is French.

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Re: Shocks
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2009, 03:04:54 PM »
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I wanta ride the bike to more BBQ joints, sez the Mikester. No... Don't cut the fat off that brisket!  
No, don't ever cut the fat off the brisket!  I smoke it with the fleece side up so it stays tender & juicy.  YOU can cut if off when you eat it.  

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Luv ya, Mike. I'm just a little bummed out 'cause you're getting to go on a neat BMW-crew ride this weekend while I get to entertain two little grandchildren. Females. Four and seven years old. Active.  
Monte, let's get it correct, Sunday is the breakfast ride to Mary's at Tin Top.  Saturday afternoon is the annual Bikini Bike Wash at Eurosports but Noooooo! you can't go to either one.  (Justin, it's from 2-5 pm with eats, music, and bikini washers.)  Like I suggested earlier, you can host your own bikini bike wash in your driveway and have lots of fun with the granddaughters also.

OK, we now return you to the shock absorber thread.  I'll try to keep the polysyllabic words to a minimum from now on.
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Re: Shocks
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2009, 06:29:10 PM »
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polysyllabic
You just can't help yourself, can you?  

I love it when I learn new non-BMW things on this forum...

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I think it's funny that our name for the metric system is English, but our name for the English system is French.
 
Never thought about that one before...


(And I'm not helping the shock thread, either...sorry!)
« Last Edit: August 08, 2009, 06:29:58 PM by msbuck »
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Re: Shocks
« Reply #38 on: August 08, 2009, 11:51:38 PM »
ooooh .... some adroit comebacks!

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Re: Shocks
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2009, 10:37:38 PM »
Funny how the subject of rider's weight and shocks came up at just the right time! I rode last week & thought it might have been a false impression, but my ride this week confirmed it. With the bike off the cemter stand, and with me on the bike, I'm having more trouble footing the ground with both feet. Until recently, I had no trouble (at least on level ground) flatfooting both feet. Then  it occurred to me: the bike might be riding higher on its shocks (me aboard)  because I've dropped almost 25 lb. in the past 6 months.

No, anxious ones, I'm not sick. I've taken to the gym at 0600, three days/week, plus I've given up beer in favor of wine for preventive reasons. I had a very painful toe a few weeks ago. The only logical cause was my first gout attack. Standard advice is to avoid alcohol, and especially beer! Not about to do the first—gout is preferable—but the second part of that recommendation gives me some wiggle room.  ;) So I guess I'll be in the market for shorter Hagons (11.8" vs. the 12.75" Konis on it at the moment.

Two things give me pause: (1) most important, the cash flow for the next few months. Darling daughter, because of good grades, has succeeded in switching law schools, causing big startup costs in her new citY (Philly), and (2) I still like the Koni ride.

Similar topic: since I got the new (1983) center stand, the bike is harder to get onto the center stand, but much easier to get off it. Lowering the bike by shorter shocks should make the bike even more difficult to muscle onto the center stand. However it should still be easy to nudge off the stand. Sure wish I had paid attention in geometry and physics classes in high school!  :-[   :(  (Yeah, I know, installing shorter shocks won't help this.)

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Re: Shocks
« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2009, 07:53:34 AM »
Less weight is good! Way to go.

And how much better the Beemer performs. Imagine how many titanium Beemer bits you'd have to buy to carve 25 pounds off the bike. Likely more than the Philly start-up tab...

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Re: Shocks
« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2009, 10:08:31 AM »
Have you tried changing the preload on the shocks you have?  That might make a difference - without having to purchase new shorter shocks.  It will change the feel, not quite as soft, but it could help get your feet back on the ground.

That's always what I have to do - even WITH the shorter shocks.   :(
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Re: Shocks
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2009, 12:05:46 AM »
Thanks for the kind words, Monte. And Aida, I think I'm already at the softest setting on the Koni's; I'll try to remember to check the adjuster positions tomorrow.

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Re: Shocks
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2009, 12:57:36 AM »
I think/thought that the KONIs (and presumable, the IKONs) could be ordered with different 'weight' springs?   As they are rebuildable, perhaps a shorter or softer spring might be in order if you could find someone who services these (though I'd be wary of going too soft on the springs - unless you really want to feel like you're riding a 'rubber cow' or cruiser..)

I think that the cheapest solution to both your problems is to just always keep your panniers filled with 12.5 pounds of beer in each side ! :D
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Re: Shocks
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2009, 07:47:03 AM »
You actually need to make them stiffer - put in all the preload you can to take the height down.  It can make for a rough ride at times, but it helps the height.  I know, it seems backwards to me, but that's what works...
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