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Offline Justin B.

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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2008, 09:44:25 PM »
Steve, John's was uploaded to this site (hence the paper-clip and filename) while yours is a link pointing to a remote hosting site...
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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2008, 04:58:39 AM »
Yo, Steve!

Is that last pic you posted a Breva? It looks something like a Bilbao (I think that's the way it's spelled) to me, one of the larger Guzzis that was discontinued a few years ago. But as Frank Zappa once said, "I could be totally wrong."   ::)

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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2008, 05:35:24 AM »
Nah, that's an '04 V11 Cafe Sport that for sale on Ebay now, here's a link to the ad if you want to see more.
http://tinyurl.com/2cblar
There's a couple similar bikes currently on Ebay.

Re: pics, though, how are you able to upload directly to this site without exceeding the size limit? :-?
Oh, I just answered my own question, you're posting 1 pic per post.
Never mind... :-[
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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2008, 07:52:30 AM »
These new Guzzi's are due out in the UK in March.  I like the look a lot.

Much has been said about low power and what the price might be.  It is an old engine, lets not kid ourselves and they are putting it out as a 2 valve per head and although fuel injected its still only 48bhp.  Not much for the modern motorcyclist, the press would have us believe.  

How could Moto Guzzi contrive to only make 48hp from a 750?  Ans:  Because that is all that this motor ever made in that configuration - and the bike is built to a price - it is after all an aircooled 750 built on the same bottom end as the 350/500cc original (correct me if I am wrong here).  

If it handle as well as the old V50 Monza's did then that will be in its favour.

But for those of us who value their driving licenses and prefer low down torque than higher power at higher revs, it makes perfect sense.  A light bike with reasonable power and pleasing looks.  It will still be able to hold its own in the traffic.  And you will have the time to admire the view, as you pass through the countryside.  Instead of blurred tunnel vision.

The killer is going to be the price....rumoured to be aprox £5300 in the UK.  That puts it about the same as some of the basic Triumph Bonneville models which are much more powerful.  It might struggle in the UK for that reason alone.  And there are a lot of last year's models being heavily discounted.  

Also there is depreciation - people running round on old airheads with 100,000 miles on them, like myself, might not be able to stomach the cost of any new bike (and dealer servicing etc). Tinkering is part of the fun! We are part of the 'market'

There are also many out there that are reluctant to return to the 'middle weight' as it is seen as the soft option.  But after running a K100RS for 2 years and 40,000 miles.  I appreciated a bike that does not throw a pair of tyres every 3 months or less and that was pushing it.  

Still, Enfield and Triumph are doing well in the UK currently.  But the Kawasaki w650 did not, although it is supposed to be the better bike.  Perhaps you need a name with some pedigree to get away with it....Some thing Guzzi certainly has.

The only colour scheme currently, it would seem, is the white, a la V7.  Or at least that is all the press release seems to show.  Personally I think they should market another couple of versions to pay homage to some of thier other 750 bikes of the era (early 70s), perhaps a green tank and red frame (V7 sport) and a black tank with red or green stripes like the V750 S3, both with either low 'euro bars' or even clip-ons or the option to have them.  Perhaps after they have dipped their toes in the water with this one, we will see other variations.  

You never know they could bring another classic model out with the bigger engines, to properly pay homage to the Le Mans Mk1 or the 850 T3.  Not that I dislike the V11 - especially the early ones...I very nearly bought one at one point!

You only have to look at how many versions of the Triumph there are to know how successful this kind of model could be.

I will be booking my test ride in the spring and I will turn up on my Cafe Racer so the dealer knows exactly where I am coming from.  The Triumph, for some reason, does not 'float my boat'......even the Thruxton.

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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2008, 10:27:27 AM »
I like some of these modernized retro-bikes, provided that the level of modernization hasn't gotten too far.
The Ducati  1000 classic over here is a nice looking, retro-styled bike but I think it has more of Ducati's higher tech bits sprinkled in
by comparison to this MotoG'z.    But even then, I don't think that the Ducati 1000 classic is actually like an older model - I don't believe that
the 1000cc engines started coming from the factory until long after the 70s/80s, which is sort of the time period I think that they are trying to emulate.
The MGuzzi actually is styled and has a similar powerplant to the time period it is trying to emulate, but with better brakes andother important refinements.
I look at this V7 model and think of it as an Italian equivalent of what might be nice if BMW decided to make some nice standard, serviceable R65 airheads again...

I have my Kawasaki Concours (GTR1000 across the pond) which fills my needs for high speed practicality like your K100, but it is alot of of fun to toodle along the back country roads in my area on a light, torquey motorbike - 48 BHP is all that is required for 100 mph speeds, and it isn't likely that I'll be doing much over that (and staying out of jail) !
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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2008, 08:15:06 PM »
I don't know why but the Yamaha XS-V1 is the retro bike that gets my hormones going.  V-twin 1000cc - oooooooooghhh.....

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/16october07_xsv1sakura.htm

Also a cool Yamaha web site...

http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/motorshow2007/sp/index.html#

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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2008, 12:01:47 AM »
For some reason, the very first impression that I had when I saw that picture was "Vincent"
The twin downtube frame lines in that picture are very definitely Yamaha XS-650 twin...
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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2008, 05:14:01 PM »
It reminded me of the Mid 30's BSA V-twins.....something I lust after!
« Last Edit: January 25, 2008, 05:14:37 PM by Semper_Gumby »
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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2008, 05:24:29 AM »
I am wondering whether our 23+ years old machines are becoming modern again? It sure looks like it judging from the very beautiful V7. Could anyone lend me 30K $ to get one?

greetings from a grey and foggy north - the weatherman says that it will be extraordinarily warm this weekend, up to 45 F.

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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2008, 08:40:48 AM »
Trolle,

You must live in Norway or Denmark.....30k$

All tax I suppose.....

Whenever I am feeling down and depressed, it never takes me long to find someone who is worse off that me.......sorry ;)

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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2008, 01:47:43 PM »
Oh I'm not worse off, just poor  :'(

greetings from a north with nice quiet weather

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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #26 on: February 11, 2008, 08:58:24 AM »
In days gone by I did manage to visit Denmark on a couple of occasions, curtosy of the Royal Air Force - winter in Aalborg (I think thats how it is spelt)  Not that far north, but far enough, and cold enough to see the Northern Lights one night.

I was a ground crew (avionics engineer) on a Chinook Sqn (large double headed helicopter) and we were deployed there to play games with the Danish armed forces.

I was also 'seeing in' a chinook the same night (standing in a frosty field waving a couple wands about - so the pilot could see where to land).  As the Chinook came down, all I could see was the static electricity dancing across the rotor blades as they rotated in front of me.  It was that cold and there was so little humidity.

I also spent 3 week near Copenhagen in the summer, catching the train in to Copenhagen and visiting Tivoli Gardens.....and the bars!  

Love to visit again one day.
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Re: New retro-Guzzi revealed !
« Reply #27 on: February 11, 2008, 09:48:52 AM »
Hi Steve

You're always welcome, I live just 30 miles north of Aalborg - and yes you spelled it correctly. Luckily it isn't always cold in Denmark, not even in winters. Today I rode to Frederikshavn 20 miles away and back on the Wh8la2, the first ride in three and a half month, it was just great even though the temp. does not excede 43 F.

greetings from a grey but all in all acceptable north

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