R65 on YouTube!

[Rob Valdez 79 R65]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF4pWf2Rqxw

Not in it's best form, however.  

[Justin B.]

 [smiley=puke2.gif]  Bummer, but not as spectacular as Joan's.   I do love the way the rings kept the piston from falling apart!  

[MrRiden]

That reminds me. I still have to send away for Oaks top end guide.
Rich

[Justin B.]

Top End Guide?

[Melena]

Oh.  Poor little red R65.    The girl didn't look too happy either.  I'm assuming it belongs to her anyway.  

You are right, Justin.  Joan's was much more spectacular.  She had better pictures too.  

[Rob Valdez 79 R65]

A R65 on YouTube.  Looks kinda familiar...  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF4pWf2Rqxw

[SCJJR65]

Yikes!!!!    At least I haven't had that happen to me (not yet, anyway)!  

[Joan]

A R65 on YouTube.  Looks kinda familiar...  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aF4pWf2Rqxw

Wow, that one's gone around a few times.

Yes, the Blueberry is still lashed to the wooden repair stand.... hey! My digicam takes 30 second vids, maybe I should make a movie of her just sitting there? Yeah right.  

The last problem is somewhere from the battery to the starter. When I saw Ken last (yes, I took the relay with me to Texas!) he tested the starter relay with a DVM and a 12v moto battery and called it a good relay. I guess that means the problem is between the relay and the starter itself. Hit the starter button and the relay clicks, but no response from the starter, AND I can run a jumper direct from the 12+ to the starter + and she springs to life!   ARGH!

[Bob_Roller]

Joan, I had the same problem with my original starter relay, it would click but nothing else would happen, and it was the relay itself. I confirmed this by pushing down on the top of the relay case, (mine was plastic) and I could get the starter to work. I removed the relay cover and adjusted the spring loaded contact arm of the relay down a bit, so it would work again, and got another 15 years out of it before it died for good.

[Joan]

Oh! Bob! I'm gonna go try that right NOW!!


(back from garage)

No joy. It sure clicks nicely, though!

[Bob_Roller]

Another test you could do,is to remove the relay from it's socket, and jumper the pins on the connector. I don't know your mechanical abilities, or if your're comfortable doing this, but if you locate the pins in the socket that correspond to the pin numbers :30 and 87 on the relay you can put a jumper wire across both of them , and if the relay was the problem, the starter should rotate. You may get a little sparking, but you're only going to do this for a second or two. Just make sure the transmission is in neutral, so you don't get any unwelcomed surprise!  

[Joan]

Hee hee... Thanks Bob! I'm going to try it. (Home with a nasty bug today, lucky me!)

Iirc, 30 is 12V+ to the relay, and 87 must be + to the starter. A nice long piece of 14g with tinned ends, but what's the best way to get the jumper ends "across" 30 and 87 while the relay is plugged in? Hmmm. I'm going in!

(she returns)

I figured it out. But dang, it still isn't giving it. AND I suddenly remembered the '86 R65 in the other corner of the garage, brought home in January. Took off the tank and YES, it is the same relay as Blueberry! Tried it:  click-thunk. No joy. Hmmm.

[Bob_Roller]

I would recommend removing the relay, but it probably will be a bit difficult, a flat blade screw driver and pry up on each side until it's out. Then jumper the pins on connector that the relay was plugged into.

[Joan]

I would recommend removing the relay, but it probably will be a bit difficult, a flat blade screw driver and pry up on each side until it's out. Then jumper the pins on connector that the relay was plugged into.

Oh! Thanks, Bob! That's something I didn't try. However, if using a known good relay still gets only a click, I'm thinking the electricity is not flowing right from the relay socket to the starter solenoid.

Or maybe a bit more extra dark roast will help clear the fuzz out of my head!  

Bob, I really appreciate your helpful hints!

[Bob_Roller]

I guess if you replaced the relay with a known good one, the relay isn't the problem. Next is to get to the starter and check the solenoid and see if power is getting there. If you need starter parts, Euro Motoelectrics in Monument , Colorado has just about everything you need to rebuild a starter, now whether it's cost effective, I guess that's up to you.