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Author Topic: removing wrist/ gudgeon pin  (Read 1507 times)

Offline JJH

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removing wrist/ gudgeon pin
« on: January 05, 2017, 06:06:39 PM »
I am doing some long overdue maintenance.  I have removed the cylinder and head.  I carefully removed the piston/ rod from the cylinder being careful that it did not hit anything.  I removed the circlip from the front of the wrist pin barrel ( a serious pain).  I tried to then push the pin out the front. No joy.  I heated the piston a bit and the pin move a bit.  Then I got scared and stopped.  I read a bit and it was recommended that I remove the pin from the rear.  Why would this matter?  I would assume the pin is symmetrical, but I also don't want to mess anything up.  I will try to remove the rear circlip.  Does anyone have any other tips, or failing that any new curse words to use?  :)

Offline Tony Smith

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Re: removing wrist/ gudgeon pin
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2017, 11:11:32 PM »
The pin is not tapered - remove it which ever direction works for you. The traditional method of heating the piston to release the pin is to pour boiling water over a piece of old towelling and then wrap the towelling around the piston.
 
A better and faster method is to buy a cheap heat gun and give the piston a good going over with it - be aware however that a heat gun can pump a lot of heat into a piston - wear gloves.

Above all else do not spend money on a ghastly tool called a "piston pin puller" - if you need one of these you got problems and using one when you don't need it carries with it the risk of damaging the bore in the piston.
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Offline mrclubike

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Re: removing wrist/ gudgeon pin
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2017, 07:09:13 AM »
Like  Tony said
get a decent heat gun your gonna need it for other repairs anyway
The cheap ones from Orielys don't last very long
They burn up
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Offline JJH

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Re: removing wrist/ gudgeon pin
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2017, 08:06:24 AM »
Thanks for the help, first time doing this part, just being cautious.


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Re: removing wrist/ gudgeon pin
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2017, 07:58:04 PM »
Agree with the others -  remove the circlip from the front or back and go the direction you prefer (or is easier).  I tend to prefer removing the front one (seems to be easier to see/access for me) and sliding the pin back toward the rear.  A bit of heat, patient persistence, or some light oil and twisting back and forth of the pin (if you can get a grip on it with your fingers) generally seems to work on my airheads.
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Re: removing wrist/ gudgeon pin
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2017, 10:54:25 PM »
Just curious as to why you are removing the piston wrist pin .
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Offline JJH

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Re: removing wrist/ gudgeon pin
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2017, 09:21:26 PM »
Bob,
I want to clean the carbon off the top of the piston.  I believe it will be much easier off the engine.
Thanks,
John

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Re: removing wrist/ gudgeon pin
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2017, 02:52:47 PM »
Upon reinstallation of the pistons, there should be an arrow on the top of the piston, the arrow points forward .
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Offline Tony Smith

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Re: removing wrist/ gudgeon pin
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2017, 02:05:49 AM »
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Upon reinstallation of the pistons, there should be an arrow on the top of the piston, the arrow points forward .

Ever since I got caught  by a set of aftermarket pistons that were not so marked I put a daub of paint from a paint pen near the forward wrist pin hole.
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