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Offline NC Steve

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Can't find correct tubes!
« on: July 07, 2014, 11:31:44 AM »
I'm having a real fit trying to locate tubes of any brand to fit the new Bridgestone Spitfire S11s I have for the R65. The tire sizes are 100/90-18, and 110/90-18, which are fairly standard and readily available. However, the closest size to these I can find anywhere for an 18" wheel, is a 110/100-18. I've looked at all of the major online shops, and while the tires can be had all day everywhere, no tubes. I'm beginning to wonder if a 100/90 or 110/90 tube has been made!

May I run the 110/100-18 tubes in either of the /90 aspect front or rear tires? If so, should I use a lower air pressure? What might be the negatives if I did so? I'm concerned about how handling could be affected, or excessive heat buildup, leading to a flat or shorter tire life. Help!
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Offline montmil

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Re: Can't find correct tubes!
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2014, 12:34:07 PM »
There's help for you, Steve.

I bought new Spitfires for my R100S which runs Akront rimes and spokes. Deciding wich tube would be best was just crazy.

As I was buying the tires from American Motorcycle Tire, I just called 'em up, shared details and they provided the correct tubes and rim strips along with fresh Bridgestone rubber.

http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/index.php

Based in Arizona, these helpful folks offer free shipping and no sales tax for us. I bought my last pair of Spits for the '81 R65 from them, too.
Monte Miller
Denton, TEXAS
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Offline NC Steve

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Re: Can't find correct tubes!
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2014, 09:35:05 PM »
Thanks a lot for the info Monte, I'll call over to American Motorcycle Tire tomorrow and see if they can hook me up. I can't understand why aligning tube and tube sizes is such a headache.

What would be the effect of having a tube slightly off sized though? If the tube was too small, would there be an inability to fully support the tire, at least at recommended pressure, and would it feel as if the tire was going flat? Could the tire come off of the rim from inadequate support? In contrast, if a tube was oversized, would it put too much pressure on the tire itself, maybe making the tire feel squirrely, as if it were skating or sliding? Could too large of a tube damage the tire, or ever push the tire completely off the rim?  :o
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'19 Royal Enfield Himalayan
82 R65-Blue II, 84 R65-Britta, 84 R65-Ol' Blue, 88 K75C, 99 R1100R
00 Guzzi Jackal, 89 Mille GT, 03 Cal Stone
07 Honda ST1300

Offline montmil

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Re: Can't find correct tubes!
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2014, 10:27:47 PM »
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...  What would be the effect of having a tube slightly off sized though? If the tube was too small, would there be an inability to fully support the tire, at least at recommended pressure, and would it feel as if the tire was going flat? Could the tire come off of the rim from inadequate support? In contrast, if a tube was oversized, would it put too much pressure on the tire itself, maybe making the tire feel squirrely, as if it were skating or sliding? Could too large of a tube damage the tire, or ever push the tire completely off the rim?

Uh, possibly...  [smiley=wall.gif]
Monte Miller
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Re: Can't find correct tubes!
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2014, 10:51:00 PM »
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I believe you're right, I'm over thinking this thing. Opinions and advice on the inet are all over the place, and make my head hurt!
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Offline Tony Smith

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Re: Can't find correct tubes!
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2014, 11:41:22 PM »
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I believe you're right, I'm over thinking this thing. Opinions and advice on the inet are all over the place, and make my head hurt!

Go slightly smaller rather than slightly bigger.
 
A smaller than recommended tube will still fully support the tyre, but it will be "stretched" just a little more than is optimal, I have used smaller tubes many, many times without issue.

But, a tube that is too big is a cat of a different colour, you may end up with a fold or crease in the tube and it will fail on that fold or crease very quickly.
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Re: Can't find correct tubes!
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2014, 12:10:02 AM »
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I'm having a real fit trying to locate tubes of any brand to fit the new Bridgestone Spitfire S11s I have for the R65

I still have 10 of these left in storage somewhere locked in a conex. Had 50 and Ebay'd them till I got down to an amount I wanted to keep. If it's an issue with some one I will dig them out when I am at the storage and drag a couple out,  If I rode a lot I would be well into my 80's b4 I needed all 10 tubes. I don't even buy green bananas anymore.
Joe Wilkerson
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Menifee, CA

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1980 R65
1982 R80RT
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1972 R75
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Offline montmil

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Re: Can't find correct tubes!
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2014, 09:21:50 AM »
"I don't even buy green bananas anymore."

Good 'un, Joe. [smiley=ROTFLMAO.gif]
Monte Miller
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Offline NC Steve

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Re: Can't find correct tubes!
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2014, 02:37:30 PM »
Thanks again for the help guys, American didn't have a phone # for technical issues, but I have a detailed email/message out to them and I'm awaiting their reply. I'll let you know what info they give me.
'16 Triumph T100 Bonneville
'19 Royal Enfield Himalayan
82 R65-Blue II, 84 R65-Britta, 84 R65-Ol' Blue, 88 K75C, 99 R1100R
00 Guzzi Jackal, 89 Mille GT, 03 Cal Stone
07 Honda ST1300