The member photo gallery is now integrated and live!!  All user albums and pictures have been ported from old gallery.


To register send an e-mail to admin@bmwr65.org and provide your location and desired user name.

Author Topic: Steering lock on 1979  (Read 1677 times)

quixotic

  • Guest
Steering lock on 1979
« on: May 16, 2013, 01:20:07 PM »
I can't get mine to work.  I'm well familiar with the concept, having had numerous bikes in the past.  And I've parsed the sentences in the manual quite closely.  Is there anything obvious that I should try before I start tearing my hair out?

The ignition key inserts and turns as smoothly as silk.

Offline Bob_Roller

  • Global Moderator
  • Mt. Olympus Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 9124
  • -7 hours GMT
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 02:05:14 PM »
The part of the fork lock that goes into the steering stem, may be sheared off .
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

Offline georgesgiralt

  • Mt. Olympus Resident
  • ****
  • Posts: 1388
  • I Love YaBB 2!
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 02:07:45 PM »
The hole into which the pin goes in is not at the max course of the steering.
So you have to push the "device" while turning a little the steering until the pin engages the hole.
If you can't, maybe one PO had forced the steering and the hole is so marred the pin can't fit into it. In that case, the solution is to disassemble the steering and de-burr the hole.

Offline Bob_Roller

  • Global Moderator
  • Mt. Olympus Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 9124
  • -7 hours GMT
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2013, 02:10:44 PM »
I haven't used the fork lock on my '81 R65 for about 30 years now .

You can shear the pin or deform the hole in the steering stem to render the lock ineffective rather easily, if you were determined .
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

quixotic

  • Guest
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2013, 09:53:36 PM »
Hmm.  I guess my short-term memory is shot.  I looked at it again today and the key inserts perfectly, but -- duh -- it doesn't turn at all.  So I'm guessing it has nothing to do with the pin or the hole, but rather the key and the lock...or my technique.    

Offline Bob_Roller

  • Global Moderator
  • Mt. Olympus Resident
  • *****
  • Posts: 9124
  • -7 hours GMT
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2013, 10:51:21 PM »
The ignition switch may have been replaced by a previous owner, does the key work for the seat lock ?
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

Offline Barry

  • Mt. Olympus Resident
  • ****
  • Posts: 5145
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 03:44:46 AM »
Steering lock on my 79 work fine but I confess I don't use it as I imagine it provides little protection being easy to shear. Also something in the back of my mind recalls the possibility of it getting stuck in the locked position. Similar logic applies to the fuel cap.

I believe the lock barrel is easy to remove once the escutcheon plate pin is prised out. Never tried it though.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2013, 03:54:53 AM by bhodgson »
Barry Cheshire, England 79 R45

Offline Luca

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 27
  • Taking my time as quick as I can
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 07:49:52 AM »
Quixotic, do you have the key folded flat?  Unlike the seat lock, the steering head lock requires the full length of the key.
'82 R65LS
'01 K1200RS

quixotic

  • Guest
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 08:28:16 AM »
The seat lock requires a totally different type of key on mine.  

I'll try the folded flat method when I get home.

Offline georgesgiralt

  • Mt. Olympus Resident
  • ****
  • Posts: 1388
  • I Love YaBB 2!
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2013, 11:19:34 AM »
Hello !
If you can't operate the lock on the steering wheel, removing it is a PITA.
It is locked in the frame when not actuated to lock. At that time it is retained by the protective metal cover.
So if you pry out the cover (gently) and operate the lock like you would do to lock the bike but pull the key instead of pushing it, the lock will go out without effort.

quixotic

  • Guest
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2013, 03:30:26 PM »
Quote
Quixotic, do you have the key folded flat?  Unlike the seat lock, the steering head lock requires the full length of the key.

That did the trick.  Thanks Luca!   :)

Offline Luca

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 27
  • Taking my time as quick as I can
Re: Steering lock on 1979
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2013, 06:21:22 PM »
Glad it worked.  Should you ever get a spare cut, test it on the steering head lock.  It is the tightest lock with regards to clearance.

When I had mine made I had to bring it back in and have the key guy grind away some of the key's "handle" section so I could push it in the steering head
'82 R65LS
'01 K1200RS