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Author Topic: Fuel Filters  (Read 4293 times)

Offline Bob_Roller

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Fuel Filters
« on: June 27, 2007, 07:09:51 PM »
I reinstalled both carbs today, along with replacing the fuel lines and fuel filter. There's been discussions about how fuel filters restrict fuel flow, and possibly cause problems at highway speeds. I was going to drain the fuel tank and remove the petcock for cleaning, so I decided to check the flow rates for no fuel filter, and fuel filter installed. The results that I got were : no fuel filter petcock ON: 7.8 gallons per hour, no fuel filter petcock on Reserve: 13.6 gallons per hour, fuel filter petcock in ON: 7.4 gallons per hour, fuel filter petcock on Reserve : 12 gallons per hour. I figure at legal highway speeds here in Arizona (75 mph) that I'm probably at 1.8-2 gallons per hour fuel consumption. So it doesn't look like the fuel filter is going to cause any problems for me at least. I am using a common clear plastic filter with a sintered filtering element. I also tested an old filter with 3 years on it, and the results were within 5% of a new filter. Yeah , I was really bored today, but somebody has to do the testing to blow the generally accepted myths away ! Also, after draining the tank with the petcock on reserve, I got 60 ounces of fuel out of the tank with the petcock removed, so there is a little under a half gallon US of 'unuseable' fuel left in the tank when reserve is depleted.
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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2007, 07:30:18 PM »
Bob,
I admire your thoroughness. Good to know that the filter will flow several times the engine requirement when maintained. I did at one point have a fuel starvation problem, that turned out to be improperly set floats. I'm still not comfortable with the plastic filters tho. Now for your next quest: What is the average airspeed of an African swallow? :)
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Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2007, 07:39:31 PM »
Good work, Bob.  I would send you a Mars bar in the mail, but I'm afraid it would be a molten mass by the time you received it.  You probably have to eat your chocolate fast there, don't you?

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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2007, 07:47:49 PM »
Yeah Rob, chocolate lives a hard life here in the northern Sonoran desert in June, the half life of ice today is about 45 seconds. It's only 109 F. at 5 :45 pm, wait till next Tuesday, it's forecast to be 115-117 F., but there's always the relief, that it will be a dry heat!
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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2007, 07:59:22 PM »
Rich, average speed of an unladen african swallow is about 24 mph.
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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2007, 08:58:14 PM »
Kudos to you, Bob, for having the patience and scientific method to
do this experiment.   I've been told, and have theorized that there
was probably a quart of gas trapped on the far side of the tank
after reserve.  your test indicates that there can be even more over there -
so, if one is running low, has hit reserve and still no gas station in sight,
it IS beneficial to stop, tip the bike onto the petcock side, and free up those
precious ounces of go-juice.
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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2007, 09:01:16 PM »
Bob, great test and it proves to me that my gut feeling about "clean" fuel filters severely slowing down fuel-flow was way overblown.  If you want to stir up a hornets nest post your testing results on boxerworks, I'm sure Ausherman and cabal will waste no time giving you a good hiding...
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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2007, 09:03:14 PM »
Justin, I already posted over here, just waiting for the incoming rounds!
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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2007, 09:05:17 PM »
He, he, he...  Put on yer Nomex(r) drawers, buckaroo, gonna git powerfully warm whar yer goin'!  [smiley=flamethrowingsmiley.gif]

You already have two responses...
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Offline Rob Valdez 79 R65

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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2007, 02:58:50 AM »
Even though I'll probably never put one on my bike, I applaud Bob's work so that those that do want to use them, do not have to worry about interferance.  At least, not with that particular brand... (  ;) )

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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2007, 08:17:18 AM »
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Yeah Rob, chocolate lives a hard life here in the northern Sonoran desert in June, the half life of ice today is about 45 seconds. It's only 109 F. at 5 :45 pm, wait till next Tuesday, it's forecast to be 115-117 F., but there's always the relief, that it will be a dry heat!  

i have felt that dry heat! it doesnt matter! still feels like your in a oven. hot is hot no matter how you say it.


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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2007, 09:04:34 PM »
It makes a difference Jon.  Baking is better than stewing, though neither are good options.

I use the filter that Snowbum recommended on his web site.

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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2007, 06:54:11 PM »
Well, Bob, your boxerworks thread has remained fairly sedate.  The only person you seem to have "poked with the proverbial stick" is Munger.  He seems to think you are purpoxely dodging his questions.  I am sure he is trying to bait you in one direction or another so he can pounce...
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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2007, 12:39:08 AM »
Like a cat...playing with a mouse...!

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Re: Fuel Filters
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2007, 08:58:53 AM »
Yeah, I'm getting to the point where I only check boxerworks threads a couple times per week and rarely reply anymore.  I have came to the conclusion that if I have a question I'm better off researching and going by my gut feelings than posting a question over there and then having to wade through several days of smart-ass replies, etc.
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