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Author Topic: BMW spin on oil filter for R65  (Read 4327 times)

Offline Barry

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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2012, 02:26:36 PM »
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Even if you rotated the part 180 degrees, it still wouldn't mate up to anything in the oil pan area .

It's not making much sense to me !!!!!  

What if the filter tube is removed and that cylindrical bit that looks like it has an O ring mates up in it's place ?


I don't expect they come out that easy though. If they did we'd all be putting in the rolled edge ones to do away with the shim.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 02:29:12 PM by bhodgson »
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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2012, 02:59:05 PM »
To the best of my knowledge, the filter is located on the right side of the engine  ( at least on my R65's it is), that round part on the adapter is on the left side .
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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2012, 03:25:32 PM »
This kit is a spacer between the oil pan and engine. The oil filter canister will come out and the round part of the spacer goes where the canister slides into the engine block up inside the engine. The oil filter cover will go back on to cover up this hole that will no longer have a filter.

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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2012, 04:38:15 PM »
Does anyone have picture of the bottom of the engine with the pan removed ?

I've only had the oil pan on my R65 off once and that was about 29 years ago .

If you remove the canister, is there an opening in the bottom of the engine for this part to go into ?
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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2012, 04:41:05 PM »
Crikey, I change the filter every second oil change, buy a filter that fits well from NAPA for ten bucks; takes 15 minutes and I'm done. What's the big deal?  But I don't have a fairing on the little R65.

Now we could talk about changing the oil and filter on a TDI Jetta. Two hour job with the underbody cowling. . .and it is easy to crimp the O-ring.

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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2012, 04:50:25 PM »
Here's the actual installation instructions. I take "dismantle the outer steering column"  to mean remove the filter tube. I think that lost some clarity in translation.

Incidentally I was right to be concerned about the oil cooler effect.  They claim a 10 to 15 Deg  (presumably deg C) reduction in oil temperature. That would be a very bad thing for the engine in our climate.   Those of you living in desert climates would welcome it no doubt.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 04:58:17 PM by bhodgson »
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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2012, 06:44:52 AM »
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Is it "snake oil" or a good thing? We are about to find out.........I just ordered one !
Hi Wilcom - this is a great idea I think. I'm still pulling my bike down as I work thru its resto. I'm thinking of fitting an extension to the pan anyway so this might just be the better option for me here in Oz where I can sometimes be riding in 35 to 40 degree temps. Would you be kind enough to PM me when you have it all fitted (or otherwise) so that I can check out your experience. I don't get on to the site very often and I would hate to miss the end result. Good luck and Thanks mate ...............Adian
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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2012, 09:27:45 AM »
The lower oil temperatures are a welcome addition here.

Although the fact that is lowers the oil pan further and puts an external filter in a very vulnerable spot does not appeal to me. I have already experienced a bashed-in old oil pan due to flying road debris and broke a centerstand spring due to a deformed speed bump.

But even so, that looks like a good piece of kit. I'd be interested how it works out on your R65.
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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2012, 09:49:10 AM »
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Would you be kind enough to PM me when you have it all fitted (or otherwise) so that I can check out your experience. I don't get on to the site very often and I would hate to miss the end result. Good luck and Thanks mate ...............Adrian  


I will Adrian. It will be a month or so before I get to it as I am in the process of putting the fairing back on and that project has been stagnated for some time.

I'm going to put on a oil pressure gauge and see what I have now for a base line and then document the conversion. The abbreviated installation instructions are kinda scary. I hope steps 9-16 weren't lost in translation LOL

I know,  to most folks this is tossing 3 bills at an issue that really isn't an issue, but as my state of antiquity advances I get a tad more "pissy" at lil things that bother me and laying on the floor taking my fairing apart  to change the oil filter bothers me.

I got notice this morning  from DHL that it shipped so the bundle of snake oil is heading my way.................
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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2012, 11:04:15 AM »
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Although the fact that is lowers the oil pan further and puts an external filter in a very vulnerable spot does not appeal to me. I have already experienced a bashed-in old oil pan due to flying road debris and broke a centerstand spring due to a deformed speed bump.  
To keep the stock ground clearance, one could always replace the oil sump with the shallower G/S sump, and even mount a bash plate.

I'm looking forward to this conversion! Hurry up DHL!!!

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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2012, 03:53:01 PM »
Thanks wilcom - I have ME/CFS and a fair bit of Fybro Myalger as well so anything that will reduce the effort needed to do proper maintenance is also welcome in my life. Look forward to hearing from you and seeing more piks ............... Adrian
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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2012, 04:58:50 PM »
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Looking at this a bit closer .

If the filter was at the front, wouldn't the oil filter canister area be on the opposite side of where the round part with the o-ring on it, would fit into it ?

Even if you rotated the part 180 degrees, it still wouldn't mate up to anything in the oil pan area .

It's not making much sense to me !!!!!

I'm almost tempted to suggest that the image has been reversed, accidentally.  Although I can't imagine them making such an obvious blunder.

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Re: BMW spin on oil filter for R65
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2012, 02:12:54 AM »
I could have sworn that there was an oil pan spacer out there that had a spin off filter in the BACK. i believe it rendered the center stand useless but it was really cool lol. I know i have so now i'm hunting it down...