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Author Topic: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!  (Read 3859 times)

MR.E

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Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« on: January 08, 2012, 04:42:00 PM »
Hello

I've not been on here for some time, with moving house, the buy out at work & the mrs ready to drop any day!!!

BUT i'm stumped with the bike!
i've been playing with it & picked up some spoked wheels, so i had them re painted & spoked, in my excitement i ran home and fit them straight away BUT theres a problem!
The rear wheel has about half a centimeter of play in it, it turns fine but has side to side play, i've tried to fix it by switching the internals round but no joy, at one point the wheel didn't turn at all!!

Any clue on what to do??
any help welcome.

Thanks in advance

Offline Bob_Roller

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 05:12:19 PM »
Can't tell what year bike you have, is it a twn  shock, or mono shock bike ?
'81 R65
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MR.E

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 05:13:02 PM »
twin shock 1981, think the wheels are from a 1985 model - so the seller said!!

thanks
« Last Edit: January 08, 2012, 05:14:27 PM by MR.E »

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 05:16:21 PM »
Can you post a photo of the assembly?

Is this a wheel for an R65? What hub? Can you provide some additional mechanical details?

It would be difficult to provide any diagnosis of the problem or offer assistance without complete details.

Back to you Mr.E :)
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MR.E

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 05:19:34 PM »
yep no worries, but where would i find the hub details, are they on a sticker??
The wheel is to go into my '81 R65.

I'll get a photo up tomorrow now.

thanks


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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2012, 05:31:42 PM »
If the wheels are from an '85 model year bike,  most likely it's from a mono shock bike .

We need to see a photo or two before we can go any further here .
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

wirewrkr

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2012, 06:19:58 PM »
Okay, a couple of clarifiers.
1) If the wheel was indeed a monoshocker, there would be no way to even attempt to make it fit to notice the play.
2) early 85 model R65s were twinshocks.
3) any wheel from the rear of any Twinshock BMW twin from 74-84 will interchange providing the correct shoes are installed for the brakes.
4) the front is a whole different ball of wax. Basically if you have a FRONT hub with 4 ribs, yer hosed. also that wheel with 4 ribs would be a 19" rim, your bike was designed for a 18" wheel.
BMW did in fact make the correct 18" spoke wheel for the bike, but they are as rare as hens teeth.
I suspect that the play in the rear is involved with the bearings and spacers in the rear.
My question is, if the bearing are bad in the rear hub, how did the wheel builder builder actually lace and true the rim?
« Last Edit: January 08, 2012, 06:20:31 PM by wirewrkr »

tvrla

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2012, 07:10:58 PM »
Exactly what wirewrkr said!

I have heard of a 19" front working just fine, but it has to be from an R80ST - not exactly a common bird these days either.

There rear must have a bearing issue. Better get someone knowledgeable to eyeball it!

MR.E

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 03:18:24 AM »
Quote

I suspect that the play in the rear is involved with the bearings and spacers in the rear.
My question is, if the bearing are bad in the rear hub, how did the wheel builder builder actually lace and true the rim?


Now then

Thanks for the response.
as far as i'm aware it can come down to a shim used in the bearing set up, not sure how he trued the wheel thinking about it, i'll check it when it's on the bike properly!!

The front fits fine & is an 18" rim, discs bolted straight on to it & slid it in no bother at all.

i think I'll order a whole new bearing set up to see what can be done.

cheers


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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 06:12:44 AM »
I trued my rear wheel on the bike.

I clamped the square to the rear-set carrier, noting the required offset of the original wheel and trued the new wheel the same before I put the tyre on.

And yes I am running a 19inch St wheel on the front.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2012, 06:14:34 AM by steve_hawkins »
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MR.E

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 03:30:25 PM »
incase any of you were wondering i did get this sorted, but we've had a little stumbling block so haven't been working on the bike!!

Anyway it did come down the spacer between the bearings, it had to be absolutely perfect, BMW told me all the sizes possible so i lathed them out and started from the nearest in my wheel!
Got it eventually!

All the best lads

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 03:53:54 PM »
Glad to hear it worked out well - we were a bit confused not knowing the mfgr year at first!   Post up a pic of your bike when you can!
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MR.E

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 03:55:00 PM »
whats the mfgr??

will get some pics up asap

« Last Edit: January 24, 2012, 03:57:03 PM by MR.E »

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2012, 02:18:09 AM »
mfgr year; manufacturing year
Julio Alarcon
1981 R65
1976 R90/6
2001 R1150 GS/ADV
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MR.E

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Re: Spoke wheel help............PLEASE!!
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2012, 10:14:03 AM »
here's a pic of the wheels on the bike
Not quite sure what the bike will look like when ive finished, but need to adjust the rear mudguard & make a new seat for it

« Last Edit: January 25, 2012, 10:14:30 AM by MR.E »