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raymr

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A 'new' R65 owner
« on: October 26, 2011, 07:14:11 PM »
Hi,
I'm new here and just wanted to say Hi. My R65 is a blue 1986 with 20K miles. It was owned by my dad, and it had been sitting for 5 years since he got ill and passed away. It had a winterizing service done 3 years ago and that's the last time it was touched.

It's in very nice shape but there are, as always with something this old, a few issues. I'm going over it and seeing a few things like the foot peg rubbers and kick stand bumpers need replacing. Since I'm ordering stuff online, are there other little assorted bits that I should just replace for good measure?

The battery still has a slight charge and I topped it off since it was low on water. The parts guide shows rubber straps as well as a screw down clamp. Right now it has neither, so the battery is kinda flopping around in its holder. Do I need both kinds of fasteners?

Anyway there's a lot more to check out. Hopefully I'll be cranking it over in the next few days. Thanks for any advice.

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2011, 07:33:50 PM »
Welcome to the forum!

The monolever bikes used a top screw-down plate type thing with (2) long threaded rods on each end of the battery to hold it in place.  That is what was on my '88 R100RT - the older twinshock bikes prior to your model used the rubber straps.

I'd check all the fluid levels/condition to see about changing them before trying to light it up.  Was the fuel tank stored dry with a light oil coating inside - or full of gas (hopefully, if it was full of gas it at least had a good dose of Stabil added, but I'd imagine that a fair amount of gas would still evaporate out over the years).

We can get ya fixed up and on the road again.   How are you with tools, and is this your first motorcycle?  First BMW airhead motorcycle?

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2011, 08:24:48 PM »
Hi Ray,

Congratulations on inheriting your late father's bike and for the opportunity to keep his love alive!

I hope you'll enjoy your R65 as much as we love ours!  Quite a bike!
A real machine!  

Like Mike suggests, probably good idea to change tranny, drive shaft and engine oil and add fresh fuel.

Check tires - you may want to replace those after you've established the mechanical worthiness of your ride.  Check fuel lines for cracks and probably good idea to change fuel filters.  

Hopefully you'll get her running in time before the snow flies!


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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2011, 09:39:35 PM »
Sorry to hear your father passed away.  It was my dad who introduced me to motorbikes when I was 9 yrs old.  Welcome to the forum and enjoy tinkering with 65.

:^)

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2011, 10:17:39 PM »
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Welcome to the forum!

The monolever bikes used a top screw-down plate type thing with (2) long threaded rods on each end of the battery to hold it in place.  That is what was on my '88 R100RT - the older twinshock bikes prior to your model used the rubber straps.

I'd check all the fluid levels/condition to see about changing them before trying to light it up.  Was the fuel tank stored dry with a light oil coating inside - or full of gas (hopefully, if it was full of gas it at least had a good dose of Stabil added, but I'd imagine that a fair amount of gas would still evaporate out over the years).

We can get ya fixed up and on the road again.   How are you with tools, and is this your first motorcycle?  First BMW airhead motorcycle?

W
The tank is pretty full. It smells normal, if that's anything to go by. I'm not a professional mechanic but I'm comfortable with tools. I wrench on my own cars, and have pulled motors, replaced exhausts, and been crawling under cars more than I care to think about. :) I've learned that patience and determination are the best tools to have.

I had a Kawasaki S2 many many moons ago. And yes this is my first BMW airhead.  

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2011, 10:18:34 PM »
Welcome to the forum!

Before starting the engine for the first time pull the spark plugs and crank the engine till the oil light goes out. I'd crank it a while after that point as well. That will pump oil to everything that needs it, since it will all be dry after five years.

Then, once the bike is running - with it on the center stand - put it in gear and run it that way till it warms up. This will splash oil around in the transmission and final drive to hard to reach place that need lube - like the front output trans bearing.

This way you'll know that everything will be lubed with no bearings running dry when first loaded.

Also, lube the cable ends! Grease gets sticky after sitting so long and the barrel ends won't swivel as they should. What happens then is the cable flexes at the barrel with every move of the lever. Eventually the strands break and you're left with no control. Not any fun trying to ride without a clutch or throttle cable!

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2011, 10:23:00 PM »
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Hi Ray,

Congratulations on inheriting your late father's bike and for the opportunity to keep his love alive!

I hope you'll enjoy your R65 as much as we love ours!  Quite a bike!
A real machine!  

Like Mike suggests, probably good idea to change tranny, drive shaft and engine oil and add fresh fuel.

Check tires - you may want to replace those after you've established the mechanical worthiness of your ride.  Check fuel lines for cracks and probably good idea to change fuel filters.  

Hopefully you'll get her running in time before the snow flies!

It is quite the machine. It's more interesting to me than the Goldwing which my dad also left me. I'm not sure I can keep both bikes so the BMW would be the more sensible one IMHO.

I checked the fuel lines and they are a little dried out at the tank end. Probably best to replace them too.

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2011, 07:07:13 AM »
Make sure you get the same diameter fuel lines - I bought replacement hose at the auto parts store and it was just a little thicker in diameter and ended up being too thick to travel thru the little hole that goes to the starboard carb - mine is an R65LS '82.

Sounds like you're process of getting bike going is sound.

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2011, 02:18:32 PM »
You asked about any little bits to add to your order from the dealer....what about oil filter kit..pretty basic and some of those wee grommets for holding the battery sdie covers on, if you don't make your own like Monte did...there's a thread on that here on the forum somewhere. Other perishable items...hmmm...check the rubber holding the gas tank on front and rear rubber bits. Rubber around the gear shift foot lever. Rubber around the front turnsignals as they enter the 1/4 fairing. If it has the luggage racks, rubber bumpers sit in the wee holes and a rubber plug goes in the tranny viewing hole too. If you ever want to remove the emission control plumbing (on an '86???) those gear box rubber plugs can plug the holes left in the airbox.
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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2011, 04:16:38 PM »
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You asked about any little bits to add to your order from the dealer....what about oil filter kit..pretty basic and some of those wee grommets for holding the battery sdie covers on, if you don't make your own like Monte did...there's a thread on that here on the forum somewhere. Other perishable items...hmmm...check the rubber holding the gas tank on front and rear rubber bits. Rubber around the gear shift foot lever. Rubber around the front turnsignals as they enter the 1/4 fairing. If it has the luggage racks, rubber bumpers sit in the wee holes and a rubber plug goes in the tranny viewing hole too. If you ever want to remove the emission control plumbing (on an '86???) those gear box rubber plugs can plug the holes left in the airbox.
Good stuff, thanks!
My dad tended to make his own replacement parts since he worked for a fabricating company. I'm finding random neoprene bits here and there that I know aren't stock. He also created a stainless steel rack on the left side and bolted a briefcase to it, but it just looks a little too strange. I hope he forgives me for removing it.  ;)

Are there any vendors that have better prices/service than others? Any to avoid?

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2011, 07:17:43 PM »
Chicago BMW used to offer discounts, but sadly, that has come to a close this summer.  We usually use the online microfiche on either MAX BMW, or AScycles.com to look up parts #s, and shop for price.  Some parts are fine to use alternates, others not so much.  Most folks trust the Mahle brand oil filters (BMW OEM) or WIX, things have been a little hit or miss with Fram oil filter kits.   Folks here will steer you right if you need help/ask assistance!
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raymr

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2011, 10:40:45 PM »
I contacted MAX BMW and a helpful guy there told me that if we use a big battery, (7x7x5) then use the hold down clamp and threaded rods. The smaller battery uses the straps. The big battery requires a different tool tray.

raymr

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2011, 10:45:54 PM »
Thanks.
I got it cranking and did that a couple times. I was worried about the oil light since the wire partially melted on the front muffler but it seems fine. Now I'm tempted to get it started but I think I'll wait til I get the new fuel hoses installed.
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Welcome to the forum!

Before starting the engine for the first time pull the spark plugs and crank the engine till the oil light goes out. I'd crank it a while after that point as well. That will pump oil to everything that needs it, since it will all be dry after five years.

Then, once the bike is running - with it on the center stand - put it in gear and run it that way till it warms up. This will splash oil around in the transmission and final drive to hard to reach place that need lube - like the front output trans bearing.

This way you'll know that everything will be lubed with no bearings running dry when first loaded.

Also, lube the cable ends! Grease gets sticky after sitting so long and the barrel ends won't swivel as they should. What happens then is the cable flexes at the barrel with every move of the lever. Eventually the strands break and you're left with no control. Not any fun trying to ride without a clutch or throttle cable!

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2011, 05:05:25 AM »
Welcome, I think you are starting off just fine with your Dad's gift. I can't think of anything that has not been already mentioned other than lights and tire pressure. Have Fun,D2

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Re: A 'new' R65 owner
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2011, 11:35:16 AM »
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Good stuff, thanks!
My dad tended to make his own replacement parts since he worked for a fabricating company. I'm finding random neoprene bits here and there that I know aren't stock. He also created a stainless steel rack on the left side and bolted a briefcase to it, but it just looks a little too strange. I hope he forgives me for removing it.  ;)

Your dad sounds to be a lot like my late father-in-law. I also inherited his r65 (AND an old Goldwing) when he passed away two years ago. He too just built his own solutions when something broke.  ;D  I'm in the middle of getting his (my) r65 back on the road after a year-long layover.

These bikes are fun to work on, and very EASY to work on. That's coming from a newbie shadetree mechanic. And if I can do it, you can.  There is lots of knowledge and great people on this site. Don't be afraid to ask questions.

Welcome! Looking forward to seeing some photos of your r65!