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Offline John M

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Renewing brake fluid
« on: February 26, 2011, 12:45:32 PM »
Any tips on doing this job on my 1986 monoshock .  
                   Waiting for spring ----John
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Re: Renewing brake fluid
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 01:06:24 PM »
There are likely several ways to the same end point so others may chime in...

Use fresh brake fluid. The fluid is hygroscopic; it absorbs moisture from the air so any old leftovers may be contaminated due to poor sealing of the original container.

I used a small kitchen baster thingy -squeeze bulb atop a graduated plastic tube- to extract most of the old fluid from the brake reservoir. A shop towel absorbed the rest, leaving only what was in the brake lines.

I then slowly added fresh fluid to the fill mark, being careful not to disturb what was in the lines nor get any fluid on painted surfaces.

After that, it's business as usual for attaching a bleed hose, opening the bleed valve, stroking the lever, closing, refreshing the supply, blah, blah, blah...

With a clear vinyl tube from the bleed valve poked into a clear glass container, just watch for the fluid to go from dirty to nice as you pump out the nasty old liquid.

BTW, after final top up of the reservoir and replacing the cap, some like to use a strong rubber band to hold overnight brake pressure as an aid in getting rid of those small pesky air bubbles that tend to remain in the lines.

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Re: Renewing brake fluid
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2011, 01:11:59 PM »
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BTW, after final top up of the reservoir and replacing the cap, some like to use a strong rubber band to hold overnight brake pressure as an aid in getting rid of those small pesky air bubbles that tend to remain in the lines.
For that I use a large cable-tie, or two in series.

And you might want to consider a Speed Bleeder brake valve.  I've had one for probably 20 years, and I love it!  http://www.speedbleeder.com/

« Last Edit: February 26, 2011, 01:12:33 PM by Rob_Valdez_79_R65 »

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Re: Renewing brake fluid
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 01:42:42 PM »
Thanks guys, just what I needed. I just finished placing an order for a speed bleeder for my bike.  This is too easy---Regards John
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Re: Renewing brake fluid
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 02:13:34 PM »
Can someone clarify why pressurising the system will help getting air out ......thinks about Boyles law.
http://library.thinkquest.org/12354/gather/gaspvc.htm
not something i would have thought of to help as it reduces the size of the bubbles.
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Re: Renewing brake fluid
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 02:44:29 PM »
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Can someone clarify why pressurising the system will help getting air out ......thinks about Boyles law.
http://library.thinkquest.org/12354/gather/gaspvc.htm
not something i would have thought of to help as it reduces the size of the bubbles.
Lou
For me, it one of those tricks I learned on line, and it has always helped.
Don't know anything about Boyles law. ;)

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Re: Renewing brake fluid
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 04:07:12 PM »
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Can someone clarify why pressurising the system will help getting air out ......thinks about Boyles law.
http://library.thinkquest.org/12354/gather/gaspvc.htm
not something i would have thought of to help as it reduces the size of the bubbles.
Lou  

That's a good question Lou. The gas laws do say that the bubbles will get smaller. Some say that the reason your brake lever is firm in the morning is just because the bubbles dissolved into the brake fluid and will then come out of solution again like opening a bottle of pop. I think the air does dissolve into the fluid but does not come out quickly again because the trick does seem to work for me. Rather than being localised at a point in the system where it can't rise maybe the air dissolves in the fluid and is then distributed evenly throughout the volume of brake fluid so that some of it finds it's way back up to the reservoir. Sometimes it does seem to need several over night sessions to really firm up the lever.

I've had a soft pedal after bleeding the car brakes which defied all attempts at improvement by more bleeding then the pedal firmed up on it's own after a week or two of use- sort of fits the theory.
« Last Edit: February 26, 2011, 04:30:33 PM by bhodgson »
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Re: Renewing brake fluid
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 06:34:43 PM »
I use a vacuum type brake bleeder, only problem with it is you get air being sucked in around the bleeder screw .

I solved this with putting teflon thread tape on the bleeder screw threads .

Use a quality brake fluid, not to start an oil thread, but I have been using Castrol LMA/GT fluid for about 35 years, never a problem .

Their latest formula is now completely synthetic, I have it in three airheads and one oilhead bike, no problems with seal compatibility .

One other thing I make sure of, is to place a plastic trash bag over the painted areas and secure it with tape, just in case of spillage .
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