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Offline Julio A.

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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2011, 04:38:36 AM »
I finished my whole day and finished tuning up the carbs and replacing the oil filter.

My first attempt was a disaster. The oil was splurting everywhere on the oil filter cover. I added another shim before the white o-ring. the extra shim did the trick.

Next stop - Starter motor and generator.  :P
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2011, 03:56:01 PM »
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I finished my whole day and finished tuning up the carbs and replacing the oil filter.

My first attempt was a disaster. The oil was splurting everywhere on the oil filter cover. I added another shim before the white o-ring. the extra shim did the trick.

Next stop - Starter motor and generator.  :P

Good for you did you use the paper gasket?
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2011, 08:21:18 PM »
Ok, OK, I admit it...from where to where does one measure...what is canister depth??? I have been just looking at the white O-ring to see if it's squashed somewhat like Matt Parkhouse showed us once from the BMW Owners News mag.

Any one care to make a simple drawing for dummies like me?
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2011, 09:13:13 PM »
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Good for you did you use the paper gasket?

Yes, I used the paper gasket.

I didn't measure the canister though. I just thought to put back the parts on how it was already there. Apparently that was not the case since my first attempt leaked(more like Squirted) oil everywhere.

Tightening the thing was the most nervous moment I ever had with this bike.  ;D
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2011, 02:20:16 AM »
Sue

Anton Largiader has one of the best web pages on oil filter issues including a picture of measuring the canister depth with a vernier gauge which is something you really need to do it accurately.

http://www.largiader.com/tech/filters/

http://www.largiader.com/tech/filters/canister.html
« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 04:00:26 AM by bhodgson »
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2011, 06:53:02 AM »
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Ok, OK, I admit it...from where to where does one measure...what is canister depth??? I have been just looking at the white O-ring to see if it's squashed somewhat like Matt Parkhouse showed us once from the BMW Owners News mag.

Any one care to make a simple drawing for dummies like me?

HI Sue,

I used a tire depth gage.  The distance is from the edge of the canister to the outer machined surface of the engine case (where the oil filter cover gets bolted on.  You have to remove the oil filter cover to measure the depth.  If you are going to use the paper gasket, then lay the paper gasket on the outer surface of the case an include it in the measurement to the lip of the canister.

Anotherway to think about it is the top of the oil filter "can" (mounted sideways in the case) is recessed from the outer edge of the case.  This is the distance you want to measure.

Adding shims adds pressure on the o-ring.  Using the paper gasket takes away pressure on the o-ring.  If you take away enough presure, the O-ring leaks!

I'm not good with graphics so perhaps someone else can draw or photograph what is being measured.

« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 01:49:41 PM by Semper_Gumby »
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2011, 10:19:51 AM »
Thank you. I've printed off the link and appreciate the "putting it into layman terms" It was the canister word that was confusing me. I guess I just looked at the oil filter hole as just that: a "hole". Not as a "container" into which one puts the oil filter. The recess was obvious to me as I just figured that was the "seat" into which the white O-rings seats!

When ya learn something new it exercises and helps old brains!!
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2011, 01:46:30 PM »
Glad to help.  Took me a while to figure it out.  Part of my problem is that I couldn't imagine why an engineer would design a possible oil path that bypasses the engine.  To quote mister Spock "that is illogical."

I had a few choice words for the engineers of this supposedly "simple" bike when I finally fiigured that one out.   ;)
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2011, 04:42:01 PM »
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I had a few choice words for the engineers of this supposedly "simple" bike  

Haven't we all !

As far as I can make out the current arrangement was introduced to enable oil coolers to be fitted on the R100's. Pity they couldn't have left the smaller engines with the old flat cover and no 3000$ O ring.
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2011, 06:48:02 AM »
There is a spin on filter mod for the R65 from Der Fatherland but but it is quite dear.

219 euros but you won't have to measure the depth of the canister as the canister will be removed!!!

*WARNING*  Do not look at this sight as there is lots of way cool expensive upgrades for your BMW.  :D

http://www.motoren-israel.com/product_info.php?info=p16_Spezialoelwannenzwischenring-25-mm-mit-Au-enfilter.html
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2011, 08:37:12 AM »
If your canister is all buggered up then you can get a new one here!!

The instructions tell it all.  They call it a "oil filter housing liner".



http://www.motoren-israel.com/product_info.php?info=p299_Oelfiltermantelrohr-erneuern.html&XTCsid=83fce54fd531a56a8be395be25adce72
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Re: Oil Filter Replacement!
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2011, 09:56:38 AM »
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If your canister is all buggered up then you can get a new one here!!

Price is a bit steep but sounds like it includes a bespoke fitting service.  I wonder if they sell just the canister.
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