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Author Topic: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings  (Read 5917 times)

azcycle

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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2010, 06:03:25 PM »
Alright fellas (and ladies), I am 95% done, and ran into my only snag today, and I need your advice.  It's regarding the bead setting for the new tires.  

The rear tire went on beautifully but the front tire is giving me a small issue where the tire isn't fully set in two areas, one on either side of the tire.  I can see by the line around the circumference that the bead is popped in all the way around EXCEPT for these two small, maybe 5" long areas.  I have pumped more than 65psi in there, bounced the tire, and they still won't give that final little pop!

Is there a trick to getting them to seat?  More PSI? I'm letting it sit overnight with the 65psi in it and hopefully it will pop in.

Thoughts?

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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2010, 06:11:19 PM »
Ahh, seating tires is a manly sport. I have had good luck putting a tie down strap around the middle of the uniflated tire and then airing up. It also helps to remove the valve core while seating the bead.

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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2010, 07:48:49 PM »
I add a bit of WD-40 -it will evaporate away- then put 100psi in the tire and place it in the sun. You'll actually hear the bead pop into place... eventually.
And Graeme, if the bead issue was your biggest problem of the day... YOU DA MAN! [smiley=beerchug.gif]

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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2010, 11:19:34 PM »
If not seated by morning, personally I'd let most of the air out again so that I could push down on the tire/bead again and ensure that there wasn't something stuck in the way, a bit of tube pinched in there, or some old dirt/crud stuck to the inside of the wheel rim surface.   If all good, try it over again.

I think that if you need to you could go to higher air pressure without explosion.   How much - I am not sure, but I've gone as high as 100 PSI on some tubeless tires before trying to get them to seat.
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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2010, 03:08:50 PM »
Got it!  Went to Home Depot and got a $4 ratcheting strap. Let all the air out, wrapped it around and cinched it down. Then sprayed some glass cleaner around the spots that weren't popping, and aired it up.  Got it up to about 45psi, released the strap, and then continued to pump, with a bit more window cleaner.  It popped in at 80psi.

It's too friggin hot to finish right now so I'll wait until this evening to balance and mount the front, and I'll post pics.

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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2010, 06:46:57 PM »
Alright... I've been successful, and frankly it went MUCH better than I thought it would! Even with the 105 degree day yesterday (notice fan in the picture!) it was a fun day tinkering on the bike.

I started with this:


The rear fender had been chewed up by the wide knobby tire, so I found a clean replacement for only $25 on Ebay!  It doesn't have the cool black paint with white pinstripes but I figure I'll pull it and paint it like my father-in-law had when I get the fuel tank repainted.

I also had to replace the tail light because one of the lens mounts snapped, leaving the lens rattling around. Additionally, this has been a bit of an eyesore and I was thankful that the new tail light assembly I got on ebay had an untouched wiring loom.  So that was on the agenda to replace.


After a frustrating hour or so trying to remove the saddlebags and rear fender, I'm finally making some progress!


Found out why the rear tire had a slow leak... embarassed to admit I hadn't been diligent in checking the tires for damage, etc. I certainly will from now on. It barely went through the tire, and put the tiniest pinhole in the tube. I'd lose about 4lbs pressre per week.


I was very relieved to see the splines looked perfect! That isn't rust but old grease. Cleaned it up and put on another very thin coat.  The rear brake pads have a lot of life left in them, too.




I had plenty of 2x4s lying around so I thought I'd try this method of popping the beads off the rims. Worked like a charm!


Rear tire mounted very easily with a little light misting of window cleaner and three tire irons.


And my ghetto tire balancing setup. From removing wheel from the bike, greasing splines, removing the tire, new tire on, and pumping up with a bicycle pump... about 40 minutes.


And now for the front tire. As you've read above, I had a bit more trouble with the front tire. The knobby didn't come off without a struggle but that was mostly because I couldn't get enough leverage with the brake discs in the way.  Then, after getting the new tire on, it took me a bit to get the bead to seat, but it eventually was defeated.  Balancing... didn't even need it!





And done... new tires, rear fender and rear tail light!  The new front tire is actually wider than the knobby. It BARELY clears the fender brace arms.




All in all it was a very long day... took me probably 6 hours but I did take my time and much of it was just fighting the small bolts that held on the fender!  The tire changing itself was very easy and took about 45 minutes  for the rear tire, and maybe 1.5 hours for the front, just fighting the bead.  But that included having to run to the local convenience store to use their compressor as I don't have one at home.

And a little walkaround movie. Sorry it's a little dark... I shot it with my little point-and-shoot digital camera.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovQ1Ypw5aMk[/media]

« Last Edit: August 15, 2010, 06:52:25 PM by azcycle »

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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2010, 08:16:46 PM »
Nice Job!

Tire jobs always gets complicated for me, will try next time I'm due for fresh rubber, possibly even try to go tubeless?

It appears your bike is in very good tuning condition, I like how it starts and idles.

As a side note: I've  heard from the airhead list not to idle your engine on the sidestand, might ruin your engine.

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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2010, 08:55:59 PM »
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I had plenty of 2x4s lying around so I thought I'd try this method of popping the beads off the rims. Worked like a charm!

I've got one of those ghetto bead breakers, too. Just can't seem to easily get it in and out of the tool box. Dig your Woody.

Good job, Graeme. Now, go buy an air compressor.

Monte
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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2010, 09:44:13 PM »
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The new front tire is actually wider than the knobby. It BARELY clears the fender brace arms.

My Bridgestone Spitfires that I buy for the front are 100/90, and they seem to fit, fine.
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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #24 on: August 15, 2010, 10:37:54 PM »
Well, I managed to find a nice window between the thunderstorms and couldn't resist taking the girl out for a spin to break in those tires.

HOLY COW!

It's like a completely different bike!  Nice and confident, no wobbling and tracking with cracks in the road, comfortable, smooth.... just wow.  My "I'll take it for a 10-mile ride" ended up being about a 40-mile ride.  ;D

I think the reason the front tire barely clears is not the tire, but the fender, as it's not a stock r65 fender. Not sure what bike it's from, but it looks pretty cool. Monte, I guess I technically DO have a compressor as it was my FIL's but it's out at his property. We don't have the room to store it right now but as soon as we sell the Woody, I'll bring it home.  I also very rarely let it idle on the side-stand now that I've got the center-stand installed. I just was too lazy to put it up on the center stand for the video.

About the woody: It too was one of my FIL's projects. He purchased it new in the early 70's for $50 and has spent countless hours and $$ restoring it.  We actually can't afford to keep it and are trying to find a good, loving owner for her.  Here is a recent pic of the 1951 Dodge Woody.... one of only 16 known in the US:
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« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2010, 06:30:17 AM »
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The new front tire is actually wider than the knobby. It BARELY clears the fender brace arms.

My Bridgestone Spitfires that I buy for the front are 100/90, and they seem to fit, fine.

Note the non-R65 front fender on Graeme's scoot. Kinda neat looking, I think. Pin striped and all...

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« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2010, 06:34:39 AM »
Man! I got the caffeine flowing this a.m. so it's r-e-a-l-l-y easy for me to visualize myownself in the Dodge Woody with my vintage Airhead trailering along behind. Sweet dreams.

Hey... that thing gotta Hemi? [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2010, 10:54:13 AM »
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Man! I got the caffeine flowing this a.m. so it's r-e-a-l-l-y easy for me to visualize myownself in the Dodge Woody with my vintage Airhead trailering along behind. Sweet dreams.

Hey... that thing gotta Hemi? [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Monte

Funny you should ask!  About two years ago my FIL moved the body of the Woody onto the frame/drivetrain of a late 80's Dodge pickup.  So it has a 318ci V8, PS, PB, etc.  We still have the original frame with the flathead straight-6 and it will be included with the sale.

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« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2010, 11:50:19 AM »
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Man! I got the caffeine flowing this a.m. so it's r-e-a-l-l-y easy for me to visualize myownself in the Dodge Woody with my vintage Airhead trailering along behind. Sweet dreams.

Hey... that thing gotta Hemi? [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Monte

Funny you should ask!  About two years ago my FIL moved the body of the Woody onto the frame/drivetrain of a late 80's Dodge pickup.  So it has a 318ci V8, PS, PB, etc.  We still have the original frame with the flathead straight-6 and it will be included with the sale.

I'm done with this thread cuz it might get real expensive in a hurry. [smiley=undecided.gif] Bye!

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Re: Baby Needs a New Pair of Shoes and other ramblings
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2010, 12:00:20 PM »
Has the vehicle had it's annual termite treatment ? [smiley=ROTFLMAO.gif]
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