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Offline Bill Conquest

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bowl floats that don't sink...
« on: January 03, 2010, 03:19:20 AM »
Does anyone know about alchohol resistant bowl floats? I've had to replace my regular foam ones so many times.. also, fuel lines?
Thanks, Bill C.
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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2010, 06:35:31 AM »
Wow, what are they putting in your fuel in Hawaii? Alcohol you say??
I'm still on my 25 year old original floats.

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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2010, 07:13:23 AM »
The alcohol resistant floats, come as part of a 'kit', it includes a new float bowls as well .

The floats ride on a brass pin that goes into the bottom of the float bowl, instead of a pivot pin that the OEM floats ride on .

I think the average cost is around $130US, and that is from the Bing Agency, located in Council Groves, Kansas .

I don't know if you can still get auto fuel without 10% ethanol added to it in the US anymore .

They started adding it to the fuel supply here in Phoenix as an oxygenating agent, about 10 years ago, after MTBE was found to be some nasty stuff, and it started showing up in ground water, due to  underground fuel tanks leaking .
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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 08:44:19 AM »
I've read a few reports floating around the internet and ABC that the alky resistant floats are neither worth the high price nor do they insure everlasting happiness.  A few folks [smiley=2cents.gif]

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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 08:49:01 AM »
I've had the alcohol resistant float kit installed on my '81 R65, since March 1997, and no problems, or complaints about them yet .

I think I paid $50-60US for them at the time though .
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'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
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I'll give up my R65, when they pry my cold dead hands from the handlebars !!!!!

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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2010, 08:58:44 AM »
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... I think I paid $50-60US for them at the time though .

Been awhile, eh, Bob? I got that feeling when I ordered the Kansas Bing Agency carb tuning manual. In about two months time, the price went from $9.50 to $11.00 postpaid. They must not be selling enough alky resist float bowl kits ;D

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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 09:07:45 AM »
What we really need, is the OEM style floats, made from an alcohol resistant material .
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Offline donbmw

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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 10:41:44 AM »
You don't have to buy kits you can get just the floats from
Bing. They are made just like the original floats.
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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2010, 12:46:14 PM »
I did a little searching this morning, and the information that I dug up, is that the BMW float part number : 13-11-1-254-766, is an alcohol resistant OEM style float .

If you are ordering this part number, it should be alcohol resistant .

I sent an email to the Bing Agency, and see what kind of response I get from them, as to whether the OEM style floats they sell, are alcohol resistant or not .

By chance Bill, are you adding other fuel treatment products to your fuel ?
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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2010, 01:08:56 PM »
Has anyone actually experienced failure of the stock Bing floats due to gas additives?

Bill, do you know for sure that your float problems were caused by additives?  Just curious.  I've run stock floats throughout the Midwest, South, and East Coast with no saturation or decomposition.  

Seems like I've always heard differing opinions on this subject and personally have never had a float problem since 1978, with periodic maintenance and replacement obviously.
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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2010, 01:37:04 AM »
I'm not using any addatives in the gas - but I just assumed the ethanol added to the gas here was the reason for the floats becoming non floating... I weighed the float that wasn't working & it was a few grams heavier than my spare new one. I'll be interested to see if the new bings are alchohol resistant.
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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2010, 01:55:29 PM »
I just received an email from the Bing Agency here in the US, and they stated, that the white foam OEM floats are not alcohol resistant .

So for whatever that is worth to anybody !!!!
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'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2010, 02:26:26 PM »
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I just received an email from the Bing Agency here in the US, and they stated, that the white foam OEM floats are not alcohol resistant .

So for whatever that is worth to anybody !!!!

Thanks, Bob, for going to the effort to check it out for us all. I have those purty white floats in my '81. Bengt Mike says he's doing a long-term tech test on the new Bing floats. Has 'em in a glass of Shiner. So far so good.
[smiley=beer.gif] <That's a pic of Mike during his test.

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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2010, 04:33:58 PM »
Now, if I had read the email completely, there are alcohol resistant floats from Bing .

They sound like they are similar in construction to the independent floats, they are hollow molded black plastic floats, the same shape as the OEM foam floats .

Bing part number : 35-310 .

Now the bad part, they want $37.08US each for them .
'81 R65
'82 R65 LS
'84 R65 LS
'87 Moto Guzzi V65 Lario
'02 R1150R
Riding all year long since 1993 .
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Re: bowl floats that don't sink...
« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2010, 05:50:46 PM »
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... they want $37.08US each for them.

So! For the asking price of a couple ($74.16 plus shipping) Bing Agency hollow, black, alky-resistant carb floats, I was able to completely overhaul a pair of 32mm Bings. Of course, I used the OEM style floats but I'm not telling my scooter.

Now I'm wondering if the $11.00 I just sent those cats for a Bing Tuning Manual will be little more than two xeroxed pages.[smiley=tongue.gif]

Monte
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1978 BMW R100S
1981 BMW R65
1983 BMW R65
1995 Triumph Trophy
1986 VW Cabriolet